[ SECRET POST #3774 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3774 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

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You know I have A LOT of people saying that they're too "intimidated" to write PoC because of SJWs.

I have never seen someone saying that you can't write a PoC. The only thing even REMOTELY close that I've seen is "when you write PoC, don't write them like a blatant fetish please and thank you", which I mean, I understand considering how much submissive Asian and "big black dick" stuff I used to see in fandom. (And even then nobody was like, calling out these individual authors for writing fetishizing stereotypes.)

I'll be honest, I think this is mainly a cop-out. I don't doubt it happens sometimes, but there just isn't this huge push of PoC who want to restrict white people from writing PoC. Fuck, look at things like Overwatch fandom. It's like 90% white people writing a multitude of PoCs and nobody is having a hissy fit.

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen it. The idea picked up steam a few years ago. People should only write what they know.

The sensible rebuttal was what about people who like scifi, because there are a dearth of Martian writers? But proponents charged ahead anyway.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

N. K. Jemisin had a great series of tweets on "write what you know." It's not, "write only about what you see in your living room," it's "go out and do research in support of your great story."

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, but the strident part of fandom can be so literal.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's important to consider that different fandoms have really different demographics. Finn/Poe was THE juggernaut ship in TFA fandom for like the first two months, but people were getting sent death threats and callouts on the kink meme for wanting top!Finn because that was racist ~big black man~ whatever. And now the most popular pairing is Kylux.

TFA fandom was SJ-heavy (probably because of the movie demographics) and teenager-heavy (a movie requires low resource buy-in compared to a video game). IDK anything about overwatch fandom, but it's totally possible that it has a different level of SJW harassment risk.

Also, I think this has been noticeably changing over time. If you compare the lack of Shawn/Gus for Psych to the totally respectable amount of content for Sam/Steve in the MCU, it looks to me like things are getting better.

Still far, far from perfect, but OP is right that 'you're a bad person for liking what you like' isn't going to help matters much.

[otakugal15]

Uh, as for OW, I HAVE seen people getting frothy over people who don't like or don't want Pharah/Mercy, McCree/Hanzo, and Zarya/Mei to be canon. Like, holy shit frothy.

And lol, I hate all three of those. Mainly because they fit some of the most stereotypical tropes, ESPECIALLY McCree/Hanzo and Zarya/Mei.

Zarya/Mei gets to me the most because it is SUCH a pair-the-spares pair AND it just makes the typical lady is a butch, make her lesbian and make her date the fat chick.

Which, isn't a bad thing, but it's been done into the ground as far as fandom is concerned that it's gotten OLD really fast. And boring.

[(Anonymous)]

"I have never seen someone saying that you can't write a PoC."

Look up winterfox.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, the last time I would have felt I wasn't taking a big risk by writing a PoC character for something I was going to post online was pre-RaceFail '09.

[otakugal15]

Was that for the movie-that-should-not-be-named or the bullshit in the Trek Fandom when people were frothing at the mouth over Sphura?

[arcadiaego]

Neither:

https://fanlore.org/wiki/RaceFail_%2709