[ SECRET POST #3777 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3777 ⌋

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Comments

Re: tl;dr

[(Anonymous)]

Ok, somewhat derailing, but I always get kind of confused when talking about Harry Potter stuff because everyone always goes for Slytherin = White Supremacist, but... Wizards are like Mutants in X-Men. They're a persecuted minority in their world and they live in magical ghettos. So I always kind of figured Slytherin was more... on Magneto's side historically. Not GOOD, but at the same time it's not really the same as a member of the majority hating on a minority.

So yeah, they were intended to be exclusionary... because muggles were trying hard to exterminate them and Slytherin took the more reactionary approach. I'm not excusing it at all, especially when it's used to justify bad behavior towards innocents, but it feels like most people argue wizard vs. muggle as if the wizards were in charge?

Re: tl;dr

[diet_poison]

That was true maybe centuries before canon, but by the time of canon events wizards had pretty much successfully hidden themselves from Muggles. And also, I mean I'm not super familiar with X-Men so I can't say if this is true for them, but wizards in HP were so powerful and in so many numbers that they could have almost certainly ran the world themselves had they all banded together to subjugate muggles, and this is actually what certain racial purists, culminating with Voldemort, wanted. They didn't want to stay hidden, and the rest of the wizarding world was struggling to keep themselves hidden along with defeating Voldy.

Additionally, wizards have a completely developed society that can exist independent of Muggles, and within that society muggles, if present, are absolutely a minority, as are muggleborn witches and wizards. And since most of the story took place within that world, and the wizards did call the shots there, and the muggles outside it didn't really know they existed, that interpretation doesn't really hold water IMO.

Re: tl;dr

[(Anonymous)]

We're talking about the time when Salazar was laying down the rules though, which was centuries ago, and that was the dynamic. They were creating a safe-house for Wizard children who would be killed by muggles. Also, keeping hidden and safe from muggles is still a huge part of what shapes Wizard culture.

And I am absolutely not up to date on it, but yeah, at least in the past Magneto has pushed the 'We're more powerful, we could kill all the non-mutants or at least rule them.'

This is one of the reasons making a fictional persecuted minority kind of gets weird when you make them literally more powerful. Which we know JKR has a habit of, since her 'it's like how gay people get discriminated again!' was a huge and powerful werewolf trying to eat people.

Re: tl;dr

[diet_poison]

Ok, that's certainly true, but the dynamic being presented in the setting of the book =/= the dynamic that existed when Hogwarts was founded.

Wizards are not essentially a minority in a society in which they don't really exist. Within their own society, they have their own minorities.