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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-05-24 05:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #505 ]


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(Anonymous) 2008-05-24 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Explain? I'm not trying to be rude, I just want to know why people jump on someone who thinks taking ancient fiction as the absolute truth is stupid.

[identity profile] norrowa.livejournal.com 2008-05-24 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
You might as well argue that because none of us can know for sure one way or another (and we can't, because there's no way of measuring God), the only intelligent ones are the agnostics.

Religion isn't about stupid or smart.

[identity profile] kiwi-from-hell.livejournal.com 2008-05-24 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Because we all grew out of the narcissistic phase wherein we imagined everyone else had the precise same experience, knowledge and views as us. I do not "understand" religion. Some people do not "understand" atheism. That is because I have not had their life, and they have not had mine. Their values are different, their belief system is different. And that doesn't fucking make them or me stupid.

Someone is stupid if they insist that their way is the only way. Kind of like you're doing.

[identity profile] digivolution.livejournal.com 2008-05-24 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly.

[identity profile] scrawled.livejournal.com 2008-05-24 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not a Christian, but there's your answer right there. You're offending people by calling something they believe in stupid and regarding people who think differently than you as an idiot. Don't get offended when people get offended back. Listen, you can disagree without completely insulting the side you're arguing against. I know this is F!S, but if you feel you want to be rude, you can't get offended if people wanna call you on it.

You can disagree all you want, and hell, even insult until you're blue in the face but don't get pissed when people call you out about it.

There should be a rule that an argument automatically loses when someone pulls the "I don't respect your opinion" card by default, because why the hell should we respect yours?

[identity profile] shinga.livejournal.com 2008-05-24 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
You know a lot of Christians these days don't see the Bible as "absolute truth"? That some just take the core basics of it (God's there, Jesus is there, Jesus is cool and taught us some awesome things about how to treat people) but sort of disregard a lot of it because, as you said, it's OLD. Ancient. Things that could have applied then simply can't apply now.

You're making a lot of assumptions about people. THAT'S why you're an asshole.

[identity profile] digivolution.livejournal.com 2008-05-24 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I really like this stance too. Like, I believe in God and the bible, but I also believe in evolution. So the way I kinda see it is that God put us all on this earth and made the planets and everything, and then we all went from there ane evolved and whatever lmao.

[identity profile] shinga.livejournal.com 2008-05-24 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly! And any Christians who think evolution is somehow incompatible with God... well I see it as incredibly disrespectful to their own faith. As if God suddenly doesn't have the power to have... I don't know, used evolution to bring life? :\

[identity profile] digivolution.livejournal.com 2008-05-24 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. I've heard so many people complain that Christians don't know anything because clearly there's evidence of evolution. Well, crap, I know that haha. It's been taught in schools, I definitely knoww evolution exists. I'm not going to deny that. But the people that deny the bible when IT exists, whether or not it's fact or fiction, well, that's just not really cool. I can't say for myself whether the bible is true or not, but it is there and it has been taught so...I believe in it :P

[identity profile] acaciabrown.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Because you often just form an overall opinion of it without looking at the detail. Not to say it's true, and not that it's in anyway an absolute, but faith helps a lot of people, and you want to take that away from them?
If faith can get you through a crisis of losing a child or coming to terms with someones death do you really want to make the generalist remark of: lulz, you're stupid?

That's horrible .

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
"Oh, no! Why do you get upset when I say that your beliefs are nothing but rubbish in the most rude way possible?"