[ SECRET POST #3790 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3790 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Tonight's Doctor Who: Spoilers.

[(Anonymous)]

Me too. If he would just stick to writing individual episodes and leave the arc plot stuff alone then he wouldn't have half the problems he does. He is fairly decent at writing individual episodes without series long bollocks attached. Why does Doctor Who even need season arcs anyway? The first reboot season did only because they had to set up Ecclescake leaving the show. There was no need for any subsequent seasons to retread Trial of a Timelord or Key to Time territory. None of them have had particularly satisfactory resolutions.

Re: Tonight's Doctor Who: Spoilers.

[(Anonymous)]

Modern television is basically understood as needing plot arcs.

I don't know whether it actually needs them. I suspect it doesn't. But that's certainly the dominant idea and the dominant model for television in the 21st century, especially for drama. And in fairness, as a model, it seems to have led to an extraordinary profusion of great television.

Re: Tonight's Doctor Who: Spoilers.

[(Anonymous)]

I normally like overarching plot arcs, but Who is definitely a show that can live without them. Even RTD's arcs didn't feel as bad as Moffat's because he often just had small hints versus Moffat who hits you over the head with it in every. single. episode. It sometimes makes it hard to even enjoy the good one offs that aren't written by him.

I don't think there's been even one overarching plot of Moffat's I've liked, series 5 was probably his best series but the end still made no fucking sense.

I just don't think he's a good showrunner, he's a semi decent one off writer, but RTD was a better showrunner (and I say this as someone who had issues with RTD as well.)

Re: Tonight's Doctor Who: Spoilers.

[(Anonymous)]

Moffat does arcs in a much more thematic way than RTD did. He seems to construct arcs by asking a question and then conceptualizing the whole season around it (and usually, it's a variant on the same question, IE endless hand-wringing over trying to justify being an obsessive intense assholish male wizard-creator-genius figure, and whether such figures need to or are able to learn to fit in with humanity and or fuck women).

Whereas RTD seems to have mostly centered things around a relationship dynamic between the companion and the Doctor and filled in whatever plots he wanted around it.

SA

[(Anonymous)]

And that's basically my problem with Moffat: he's spent his whole career basically writing about the idea that boy geniuses need to stop being assholes and become part of the human race. At a certain point, you need to stop writing about the part where boy geniuses learn to stop being assholes, and write a story about them actually being mature human beings. It's just agonizing to see someone drawing a plow through the same ground over and over and over again. He's obsessed with that realization and unable to go beyond it. It genuinely drives me nuts. We fucking get it already.

Re: Tonight's Doctor Who: Spoilers.

[(Anonymous)]

I can see that. Moffat is also generally a terrible character writer, he can't write his characters consistently to save his own life and they all tend to change according to whatever plot he wants to deal with next.

I honestly wonder how people can love his companions sometimes because they aren't the same people from one series to the next (I like his companions but I have trouble getting overly attached to them when they are so inconsistent.)