[ SECRET POST #3790 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3790 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm not, like, crusading against it or anything, I just think people should be encouraging use of an agreed upon gender neutral pronoun. They/them works in some situations, and utterly fails in others, but no one wants to acknowledge this because people are afraid of being seen as bigoted for thinking we could do better, linguistically. It's not like it would be THAT hard to introduce into our language, we have slang terms getting popular all the time, why not a gender neutral pronoun? They/them is terrible when writing a story with a prominent nonbinary character who frequently interacts with a group. Good writing can only help that so much.

Re: OP

[kamino_neko]

I just think people should be encouraging use of an agreed upon gender neutral pronoun.

They are. That is what 'they' is. That is what 'they' has been for centuries.

'They' is no more confusing than 'he' or 'she'.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

It isn't so confusing in most general conversation in daily life, but it is undeniably more confusing in literature where pronoun use is much heavier.

Re: OP

[kamino_neko]

But 'he' and 'she' have the same issue, albeit in different contexts.

It's commonly called the 'gay fanfiction dilemma', although that's not the only context it crops up in (though it tends to be one of the worst, due to the kinds of interaction that come up in same-gender romance/sex, and the general quality of fanfic).

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

So how then do you differentiate between a group of male characters speaking? Or female characters?

It's almost as if context can help you differentiate speakers GASP.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

But, I mean, this is a debate that exists. It's not like someone decided on "they" one day and then pushed out an invisible memo to force people to go along with it or be bigoted. There are reasons that people mostly decided to go with "they" instead of one of the other alternatives. One of the main reasons is that people have been actively trying to get people to adopt new invented gender-neutral pronouns since at least the 70s, and none of them have ever really taken - it turns out that it's a lot harder than you think to get people to adopt it. It's not like some kind of novel idea.