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I like Chuck Bass as a character, but I don't like him as a person, or as a romantic lead. Plus, I've never really been able to get over the fact that he tries to rape Jenny in the first episode. I seemed like the writers just weren't really thinking about the future of his character when they wrote that bit into the pilot.

Like, yes, Chuck does some pretty awful things and is generally a cold, self-interested asshole, but getting a fourteen-year-old girl alone and attempting to force himself on her is a whole different level of awful, and I feel like that person he was in the pilot made it impossible for me to fully accept the less-garbage person the writers tried to make him pretty much from then on out.

To be fair to the writers, Chuck attempting to rape both Serena & Jenny in the pilot is taken straight from the first book, where he does the same. The pilot as a whole is taken straight from the first book, after which point the show deviates from the books on a large scale.

The difference is (and I've admittedly only read the first four books thus far (the rest are on my list)) book!Chuck is a secondary character whose parents are still married and who is missing from the second book entirely, if memory serves. He's not intended to be a romantic lead and you're not expected to like him.

Chuck Bass the TV character, I feel, could have possibly been redeemed as a romantic lead, but I think the writers were too enthralled with Chuck's uses as a villain and/or antagonist and as a dramatic, tempestuous romantic lead to write a solid redemption without backsliding. And again, where the Chuck/Blair shippers are concerned, that part of the fandom was super into Chuck as a tortured, gothic-esque romantic lead. Properly redeeming him was never really required from the writers' POV, I assume. I mean, given the love Chuck received and still receives, I imagine the thought process was somewhat like: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." But I personally thought it was broke because holy fuck did they take Chuck to some seriously dark, unforgivable places.

*Fun Freudian slip fact: When typing this comment, I originally typed "Trump" before catching myself. Oops.

Finally, in many ways, I think TV!Chuck Bass suffers from a lot of the same problems OUaT's Regina Mills suffers from. The writers created a villain (or adapted a villain), those villains developed rather large fan bases, and while they want their viewers to root for these characters, seeing as how much the fans love them, they also realize that redemption arcs would remove a lot of story potential and also potentially affect the fans' relationships with them. And in writing this comment, I've realized: I fucking hate Regina Mills. I hate her way more than I hate Janie Ross.

Sorry for the word vomit, anon, but thank you for engaging with me. I'm always down to talk Gossip Girl.

I literally worked from sun up until sun down yesterday, which is why I never came back to comment on this. But you obviously spent time on it, and it's a good comment, so I wanted to let you know I did read it, and I agree with pretty much all of it.

It's weird, though, because I don't remember Chuck's attempted rape of Jenny being quite so cut and dried in the book (I read the first few when they first came out). Like, I remember him being a creep and trying to get with her in a way that felt manipulative, but I don't remember the part where he literally tried to hold her down and force himself on her physically. Maybe I just didn't register it the same way at the time because I was young.

That is a hellish work schedule. :(

Thank you for coming back, anon. I appreciate it.

It may be that you were young. I know what that's like. When I saw The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants in theatres, I was convinced they'd changed it because 10 year old me did not get that Bridget had had sex, but when I read it again at 14, I realized, nope. I was the dumb/naive one. But in this case, it may not be. I don't remember the book's account exactly, but I feel pretty confident that they occur in different places. I can't remember which is which, but I think one occurs on the rooftop or on the staircase leading up to the rooftop and the other ends up occurring in a bathroom stall, which might account for one seeming less cut & dried than the other.

And, fun fact, in the Mexican adaptation, Gossip Girl Acapulco, the party happens on a yacht, so Dan literally punches Chuck off of the yacht into the water.

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