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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-05-25 08:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3795 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3795 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
It is still up in the air, and probably always will be barring TARDIS technology or some super unlikely find of some very well preserved historic documents, whether he had them killed or someone anticipated he'd like them killed and he was just okay with it after the fact.

Either is possible, neither is commendable.

Frankly Richard III ought to thank Shakespeare. Without him making a play about it he'd just be another forgettable short reigning Monarch of the Middle Ages. Like King Stephen, for example, anyone except the Cadfael fans remember him? No, nobody does. How about William Rufus, and he was one of the successful ones, but I bet all but the hardened historical scholars could only give you a blank look if you said his name. Shakespeare made sure his name would live forever. The villains have all the best roles anyway.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

All I remember about Rufus is that he was generally disliked and was killed on a hunting trip by "an arrow that flew from nowhere," which ties in neatly with the generally disliked thing

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Still a better end than Edward II. And his end is all anyone remembers, in one form or another.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
And that story was probably made up, as well! It didn't start to circulate until years after his death.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Not just the middle ages have forgettable monarchs of course. There is the Georges. We only remember three out of five at best, the mad one, the fat and mad one, and the stuttering one. And two of those are only because there were movies about them. Or William the IV, had a head shaped like a pineapple and forced himself to live for an extra nine months just out of spite. And of course Queen Anne, about whom nobody much remembers except she had nice chairs.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
No, I remember Queen Anne. Such a sad story.

A for William IV, good on him! He must have been so relieved on the day Victoria turned 18.
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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2017-05-26 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
And then there's the "Anne, a dead queen" joke in "1066, and all that".

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Poor Queen Anne had 17 children, none of whom survived to adulthood.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Heh. I know King Stephen (and Queen Maud!) and William Rufus, and I'm not a hardened scholar. Just a nerd with a love for English history. But yes, if it weren't for Shakespeare, half of the Richard III Society's source of outrage wouldn't even exist and then where would they be? ;D

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
What do you know about King Edgar?