[ SECRET POST #3796 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3796 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Shining]


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04. https://i.imgbox.com/wgIVTiyN.gif
[moving gif, Doctor Who]


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05.
[Forever]


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06.
[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]


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07.
[Mortal Kombat 2]





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08. [SPOILERS for Steven Universe]



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09. [SPOILERS for Criminal Minds]
http://i.imgur.com/itjb0jk.jpg
[linked at OP's request / Criminal Minds - Kat Adams played by Aubrey Plaza(top), Lindsey Vaughn played by Gia Mantegna (bottom)]


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10. [WARNING for rape]

















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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

That's not the reason why I prefer the Malfoys, but hey, if that's your reason, good for you!

I prefer the Malfoys because explicitly as a family unit I feel like they're a healthier model than the Weasleys.

The Malfoys are terrible people who do, think, and believe terrible things, but as a family unit they love each other fiercely and fight for each other and support and protect each other. There's a lot of really awful things about them but that they love each other is never in doubt.

With the Weasleys, the twins are vicious bullies, Ginny is absolutely vicious if she takes a disliking to you. Ron goes along with the strongest personality in the room. Molly is strident, short-tempered, dismissive, and domineering. Arthur barely seems to have a presence in his home and with his children. None of them seem to ever listen to each other. I can't imagine living in the midst of all the tension that must erupt between the twins, Ron, Ginny, and Molly's tempers. Percy, as the family's fav. punching bag, made the smart decision to leave. (I'm still angry JKR made him make up with his family.)

But then, I have to be entirely honest: Molly, and the Weasley's home situation reminds me very powerfully of my own childhood, where I grew up in an emotionally abusive environment.

I'll take the Malfoys any day over the Weasleys.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sure the Weasleys loved each other too. The Malfoys loving each other doesn't mean they can't have been emotionally abusive, we just don't see as many of their interactions with each other because Harry isn't staying at their house, and we see most of the story through his eyes.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT.

You're right, of course, but there's nothing in the text to suggest that the Malfoys are emotionally abusive either. Whereas there's plenty of room to read that the Weasleys are.

[(Anonymous)]

I never understood why Percy was supposed to be the bad Weasley. Sure he was a bit stuffy, but wanting to do things his own way even if it was a stuffy way shouldn't have been the sin they made it out to be.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT.

Percy's always been my fav. Weasley, and I hated the way he was treated by his family.

[(Anonymous)]

True. I guess it happens when you're the "different" one in a big family, but it has to suck at least a little bit. Makes me glad I was an only child.

[(Anonymous)]

imho because for the readers he was supposed to represent those try-hard people in class that always tattled on you and did everything for teachers' approval while looking down on you


at least he always reminded me of a class representative i had who once got me into deep shit and who i should never have trusted with secrets

[(Anonymous)]

I don't want to argue against your feelings, because I can completely understand how someone would respond that way if the Weasley family reminds them of their own family, and how someone might valorize those qualities in the Malfoy family.

At the same time, I think it has to be said - if the Malfoy family has those qualities, it has them in a profoundly dysfunctional way. And I think your reading of the Weasleys is a lot more negative than the actual text.

[(Anonymous)]

It could be on both counts! I never claimed to be objective about this matter. And while I've held these opinions for years, I've never flamed people or fic for writing the families in interpretations other than the one I hold either.

I'll also be honest and admit I really like the way a lot of people write the Weasley family in fic. They seem warmer and kinder and more cohesive in a lot of fic than I got them from the actual canon.

It's just, in canon, they hit off so many warning bells and comparisons to my own family and it's hard for me to read them there. (And the twins--well, I've never been fond of the trickster types, since they're so easily turned cruel in the first place and the twins do not have the best sense of where to draw the line and stop.)

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I can totally respect that, and I think it's really interesting how the context we have there can influence our readings and how much that can resonate with us.

[ninety6tears]

Not to mention we have much less of an idea what things are like at home for the Malfoys.

[(Anonymous)]

How is Ginny vicious?

[(Anonymous)]

Not the OP, but while I really liked Ginny in the first five books - she was one of my favs in OotP - in HBP she turned into a classic mean girl in many ways. Calling Fleur "Phlegm"? It might not be a cutting curse, but it's certainly a sort of vicious popular girl stereotype.

Honestly, most of Rowling's female characters ended up acting similar to that in later books, so it's not just a Ginny thing.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that Ginny is rude to Fleur, but it's really hard for me to read the Fleur-Ginny interactions as "classic mean girl stuff". Like... they're not exactly high school classmates jockeying for personality. Fleur is considerably older and Ginny is annoyed about her marrying into the family. That's not a mean girl thing.

[(Anonymous)]

And Fleur is a total snob who makes passive-aggressive insults right and left. Nothing about Ginny's disapproval was gonna break her self-esteem, if she was even privy to it.

[(Anonymous)]

their mom joined in on it as well and my favorite part of that book was how fleur shut molly the fuck down when she said (rather gleefully) that she probably wouldn't want to marry bill now. fuck molly and ginny.

[(Anonymous)]

DA. Lol, it's alright to hate Molly and Ginny. Though I think you're going a bit overboard with Molly 'gleefully' saying she probably won't marry Bill. Her sons face was almost ripped off and really, if anything it just shows how Molly's perception of Fleur's character was way off.

The shut down proves that, and it's all that is needed for Molly to welcome Fleur into the family.

[(Anonymous)]

So much this.

Frankly, AYRT's argument feels so profoundly biased it's actually wigging me out a little. I don't even like Ginny that much, but this simplistic, reductive, ungenerous interpretation of her character is odd. Especially since she's a teenager, and frankly, it's pretty normal and natural for a teenager to emit blips of insensitivity here and there. I know very few teenagers who didn't.

[tree_and_leaf]

*nods*

Is Ginny being an immature brat to somebody she dislikes who is marrying an older brother she looks up to? Yes, although as noted below, she has some provocation. But she's a teenager, and that's a fairly predictable family dynamic.

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't care for how Ginny snickered at Luna, a mean girl trait that I've always detested. She strikes me as someone trying to be cool to fit in.

[tree_and_leaf]

She winds up being friends with Luna.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you serious with this

how many goddamn people in their lives have never once tried to be cool to fit in

I mean Christ

[(Anonymous)]

I think your experiences with your own family are strongly shaping your interpretation of the Weasley's family dynamics. Everything you're describing here as somehow unhealthy, I read as a slightly hyperbolic depiction of the kind of (totally normal and as-healthy-as-can-be-expected) family dynamics that often occur in large, spirited families.