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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-05-28 03:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #3798 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3798 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-05-28 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I have never in my life read, played, watched, or otherwise consumed a work of fiction because I was interested in the author's Very Important Opinions on human nature/the essential doom of humanity/the true moral value of heroism/whatever. I read/watch/play stuff because I want to see where the plot goes, or what happens to the characters, or whether my ship is going to kiss. If I wanted the author's opinions on human nature or whatever, I'd go find a philosophy book.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-28 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Congratulations about only liking things on the most basic possible level I guess

(Anonymous) 2017-05-28 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Was that necessary? Someone is stating their personal preferences and you have to be a smug dick about it.

There is nothing wrong with what they are doing.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-28 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I know my response was harsh so fair enough. But to be clear, I don't think OP is just stating their preferences. Their post is pretty hostile to the idea that works of fiction can engage with deep themes, and seems to imply that deep themes only belong in philosophy books. It's a contemptuous post.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-29 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it isn't. Yours, however, most definitely is.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-28 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

What is this lol. So if I eat food because it tastes good, and I don't go into appreciation of the artisan handcraftmanship of ancient cultures and tradition and history of it every time, I'm enjoying food at the ~most basic level~ like a sad, basic person and deserve sarcastic congratulations for it?

I must be out of touch if "doing things for enjoyment" is now basic. Has hipsterdom taken over that far?

(Anonymous) 2017-05-28 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
If we're going to use that analogy, then OP is the equivalent of someone shitting on people who like to cook because it's pointless when you can just get food delivered

I let myself get annoyed and my response was impatient and rude and not in line with my best self but dammit if OP wasn't on some shit to start with

(Anonymous) 2017-05-28 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh pretty sure OP was responding to loads of people who hold the common pretentious belief that simply enjoying a story or a game simply presenting a story, i.e. cinematic, is "basic," which is what was in the secret they are replying to.

It's not "on some shit" to reply to an idea that was presented to them.

They are doing only exactly what you did.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-28 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
They are doing only exactly what you did.

I agree. We're both being dicks. Granted, I shouldn't have let them get my goat.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-28 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, if you're really interested in a mid-level fantasy author's opinions on whether it's really moral to try to help the poor peasants or whether the correct thing to do is leave them to their noble shitholes, good for you! Have fun. I picked up this book because I thought something other than authorial navelgazing was going to happen in it.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-28 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Midlevel fantasy writers might not be good at it

That doesn't mean it's never anything more than worthless authorial navelgazing

[personal profile] sachiko_san 2017-05-28 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. Not a fan of analyzing everything I read as if everything needs to have a message in it because I simply don't care about it.