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[ SECRET POST #3800 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3800 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Killing Stalking]

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[The 100, Echo and Bellamy]

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[Anne (the new remake of L.M. Montgomery's Anne of Green Gables)]

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[Pokémon ORAS]

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[Homestuck]

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Calling the Pietà Plagiarism pose Bridal Style is either ignorant of comic history, or a cheap attempt to prove your point and hope no-one else spots it. Foul.

"Rumors persisted through the mid-oughts, as characters dropped left and right, that Dick was next; that the top brass at DC hated him"

Maybe? I doing it, but maybe the top brass hated him... Like how the top bras hated MJ over at marvel. The top brass hating a character hardly translates to homophobia among the straight male fans. Not by along shot. Not sure what point she's driving at.

"Dick Grayson is hugely popular with young, female, and/or queer fans."

And straight old males too.

"He’s lithe, pretty, and acrobatic. He’s gentle and friendly. He’s about as objectified as male characters ever get in comics; female characters regularly comment on his looks and compliment his butt. He’s sensitive and cries on page semi-regularly. He loves his adoptive father figures and little siblings and isn’t afraid to show it. He dates women who can beat him up and has long-running and deeply intimate friendships with his male peers."

Just putting this all here so you can look for yourself for any thing that makes him not acceptable to straight males. We recognise all of this too. We relate to him too. What isnyour idea of straight males that you would think any of this would turn us of the guy? I mean, hell, most of this applies to Peter Parker, and I still want to grow up to be him.

Referencing Devin Grayson as a positive? Oh girl, we will get to that soon.

"but for readers who’d rather keep their comics as straight as a nine-panel grid, it’s alarming" Maybe, but this really is the first time you've referenced homophobia rather than "Straight males". The two are NOT THE FUCKING SAME.

I don't know anyone who is alarmed by Grayson's ass. I'm sure they exist, but they are clearly not as common as you imagine.

I rock out on 4chan, and I haven't seen it. Where else should I look?

Edited 2017-05-31 07:11 (UTC)

"It’s perhaps worth noting that Dick was raped (by a woman) during an arc in the early 2000s. It was not a well-handled story"

There's that Devin Grayson story I mentioned before. it wasn't handled well? Devin got her coooch slime all over the comic! It was dreadful! She insisted it wasnt rape! Arch!

It gets worse

"but it’s yet another way that Dick has been coded as female and/or queer within the uber-macho world of comics."

Actually triggered right here - Not really, just 4Chan triggered. FUMING, do I need to explain why?

"You’ll never see Batman sexually assaulted"

No? You won't? You need a refreshed on the drugged and raped method of Damian's conception?

You want see some superman panels of his rape?

What about green arrow?

GO FUCK YOUR SELF!

Here I lose my shit an can't critique the rest of the article coherently or even with the attempt at being fair, but my objections run along the same lines.

Edited 2017-05-31 07:23 (UTC)

"OH YEAH WE REALLY WANT TO SEE MORE MANLY MEN GETTING RAPED!"

And this here is one of the prime examples why a lot of people, especially women, distance themselves from modern feminism.

Wait, I'm tired. Who is saying that?

I'm tired as well so I thought it was kinda implied with the "You'll never see BATMAN get raped" in the article.

Oh, I see. I too was wondering where that came from but, no, I get it.

Its certainly a valid interpretation of what she was saying, but personally I was reading it more in the "Women are the only ones who get raped! What? Dick was raped? Yeah but that doesn't count since he's basically a woman" style. Not that they want Batman to be raped and more that they see nightwings rape as further victimisation of women.

And that's all they will ever see because they don't care that batman was raped.

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