[ SECRET POST #3804 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3804 ⌋

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[Twin Peaks]


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[Chris Pratt]


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[Banlieue 13/District B13]


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[American Gods]


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[Stephen Fry]


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[Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir]











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Comments

Re: What Are You Reading

[(Anonymous)]

Do you not find the classis in those stories off putting? I know it was endemic at the time, but I feel like other detectives written in that era were less dickish about it. (Namely Marple and Poirot.)

Re: What Are You Reading

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, that should read classism.

Re: What Are You Reading

[(Anonymous)]

To be fair, Miss Marple is well off, but not an aristocrat, and Poirot is a foreigner so they're not quite as embedded in the class system as the son of a Duke.

Re: What Are You Reading

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know. I mean, those elements are certainly present. I think I mostly write it off as, first, the style of the times and of the genre to some extent; and second, as the result of the Wimsey stories being almost a little bit of a fantasia of wealth. And I think there are enough things that I love about the stories to overlook that.

I don't care for Christie in general, so that's not a good comparison for me to make (I just find her writing style and her characters very unpleasant).

Re: What Are You Reading

[(Anonymous)]

Fair enough. I just find Wimsey too close to the bone I guess.

Glad you're enjoying the books though, OP. :)

Re: What Are You Reading

[(Anonymous)]

Dorothy Sayers comes right out and acknowledges that Wimsey's wealth is part of her own fantasy and wish fulfillment:

In How I Came to Invent the Character of Lord Peter Wimsey, Sayers wrote:

"Lord Peter's large income... I deliberately gave him... After all it cost me nothing and at the time I was particularly hard up and it gave me pleasure to spend his fortune for him. When I was dissatisfied with my single unfurnished room I took a luxurious flat for him in Piccadilly. When my cheap rug got a hole in it, I ordered him an Aubusson carpet. When I had no money to pay my bus fare I presented him with a Daimler double-six, upholstered in a style of sober magnificence, and when I felt dull I let him drive it. I can heartily recommend this inexpensive way of furnishing to all who are discontented with their incomes. It relieves the mind and does no harm to anybody."

Re: What Are You Reading

[(Anonymous)]

It's not the wealth that bothers me, it's his attitude to other people. Especially poorer people. But anyway, it doesn't really matter what gripes I have. I was just curious what OP thought. :)

Re: What Are You Reading

[(Anonymous)]

SA as above. I wanted to add that I don't care for Agatha Christie, either. Her writing comes off as very smug and superior to me.

Re: What Are You Reading

[(Anonymous)]

That's my issue as well. I don't get the same sense from Sayers, for whatever reason. Part of it is just that, again, Wimsey is such an unrealistic character that it's hard to care about him being superior. He's like Superman.

Re: What Are You Reading

[(Anonymous)]

My feeling is that Wimsey has the baggage of his class, but he generally tries to be a good person. Poirot is a dick because he's based on Sherlock Holmes, and Agatha Christie thought Sherlock Holmes was a dick and Watson was a moron, which is why Hastings is a moron. Which is another reason why I dislike Agatha Christie!

Re: What Are You Reading

[(Anonymous)]

lol! very true!

Re: What Are You Reading

[(Anonymous)]

Sacre! Poirot is not a dick.

Re: What Are You Reading

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Although weirdly I think Such etc did a better job of that than Christie in the later stories. She clearly hated Poirot by then, just as Conan Doyle came to hate Holmes. Oh the irony.

Re: What Are You Reading

[(Anonymous)]

*Suchet

Re: What Are You Reading

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Poirot is certainly prickly, arrogant and a little prone to teasing and mocking (especially Hastings), but he's not an asshole. I like Suchet's portrayal as much as most people, but I meant the books, actually. Although, yeah, she definitely got tired of Poirot, but I think the issue of her last works is that most of them were simply badly written messes as a whole.