[ SECRET POST #3805 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3805 ⌋

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Comments

[sarillia]

Why is this something that should be private? Is this another one of those things where I'm not reading the arguments correctly because I forget that to some people fanfic=porn?

What is so horribly personal about a story where the main character is a thinly veiled version of the writer that it's a matter of--actually I'm not sure what you're saying it's a matter of. Safety? Decency?

[(Anonymous)]

My take on it is that someone doesn't like self insert fanfic and doesn't see the point of it and they're one of those people who thinks that everyone should feel the same. You know. The kinds of people who "just don't understand" why other people have these weirdly different opinions, because that's like really confusing?

But they're subtly disguising it as a "omg will nobody thinks of the helpless newbies!!!" issue.

[(Anonymous)]

It's more because I don't need to know other people's fantasies, like fic to me is something I want to read to explore established characters, not someone else's fantasy about them and an established character.

I honestly don't care that much either way, I just don't understand why people feel the need to share it so I was questioning that. I also in general think people could afford to share less on the internet so you can chalk it up to my personal feelings.

[sarillia]

For a lot of self-insert writers, that's only one aspect of the story. They also have fun with the other characters and the plot and everything else. You're acting like they're literally just writing about their fantasies of hanging out with their favorite characters, and some are, but others are still treating it as a story that they put work into and that other people might appreciate.

There's really a gradient of self-insert, with the actual writer as a character on one end and characters with various traits borrowed from the writer on the other end. They're not all the same.

And still, even the stories that you're obviously picturing will have people who enjoy reading them. Generally other people who share the same kind of fantasy. Yes, there will be people making fun of it too, but not everyone is put off by that.

[(Anonymous)]

I think some of what you're talking about goes more towards and OC then a self insert, but I see what you're saying.

None of that really bothers me, I was never suggesting going out and forcing people to take down all their fic, I truly just do not get it because to me it's embarrassing. I recognize not everyone thinks the same way I do but there's still a level of "???" for me about it.

[sarillia]

I'm just not sure why it's more embarrassing than other self-indulgences in fanfic.

[(Anonymous)]

It isn't. But clearly self insert fic bothers ayrt more than other self indulgent types of fic, so that's the one they're super duper concerned about policing in other people. But only for their own good, because they're not really bothered by it!

[(Anonymous)]

Why do you think that fanfic should be catered to you or kept private?

[(Anonymous)]

Because it's fucking embarrassing.

There was this huge thing with the new Powerpuff Girls where one of the crew self-inserted a character into the cartoon so he could be Blossom's love interest. He even voiced that character. It caused huge back lash because everyone was creeped the fuck out at how pathetic it was.

[(Anonymous)]

And yet, the world didn't end. So maybe it's fine for people to embarrass themselves with self inserts and those of us who don't like self inserts can avoid those works and we don't have to shame people into writing stuff purely on the basis that we dislike it?

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT-- I agree with you, however the example anon used was pretty creepy xD and not the typical self insert, that I've come across at least.

(Granted she's a fictional character, but I'd be side-eyeing that guy pretty hard.)

[(Anonymous)]

Yes because a grownass man showing a desire to have his fictional self with what's implied to be a 5 or 6 year old girl is the same as teens imagining themselves with people their age or older.

Exactly the fucking same.

People were creeped out by the implications of a grown man wanting to be the love interest of a child character. Not because self inserts are inherently creepy.