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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-06-04 04:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #3805 ]


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(Anonymous) 2017-06-04 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
It's still bad advice to tell people they need to live their lives in such a way as to avoid attracting negative attention at all. That's just not realistic, and not helpful.

"Are you anon from earlier because "Not everyone is aware that there's so much strong negative feelings about self insert fics. Young people, people who are new to the whole writing thing, etc." suggests that not everyone knows the options, so yes it wouldn't be a bad thing to suggest to them that they keep a fic private."

1. Not realizing that other people feel strongly about self insert fics isn't the same thing as not knowing there's an option to keep fic private. I'm pretty sure that people who publish a fic are also are aware that they have the option to NOT publish it, because that's pretty obvious. If you bought a mocha latte at Starbucks and decided to drink it in public and someone came up to you and said, "Hey, maybe you weren't aware of this, but did you know you could... NOT DRINK YOUR MOCHA LATTE? Because of all the Starbucks haters out there?" you'd probably think they were a condescending busybody and you'd be right.

2. Suggesting to people that they should hide their HARMLESS FANFICTION because some people might not like it is ridiculous and poor advice.

3. Even if young writers aren't initially aware of the option to not publish their self insert fic, again, this is a very, very common opinion that's shared readily (and often rudely) by the general fandom public and not this arcane tidbit of advice you seem to think it is.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-04 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
It's about advising caution, not about "never involve yourself with anything negative ever."

I see your points though and this has honestly gone way beyond the point that I want to debate anymore because I honestly don't care *that* much what people do with their fic. Thanks for responding.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-04 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
But the point is, you're "advising caution" for something that's perfectly innocuous and implying it's a major risk, which isn't that far from "never involve yourself with anything negative ever." Especially since the caution you're advising is that people simply not share their self insert fics at all in case they're targeted by a troll and driven off the internet! It's like telling people not to drive cars, because they might be hit by a semi. That goes well beyond mere caution into paranoia, which isn't helpful advice because it's not representative of reality.

It's nice you're not that bothered, but honestly, I think your personal feelings about self insert fic are really coloring this discussion. It's fine you don't understand why people might want to share it. You don't have to understand other peoples' motives for what they do, but if that's the case, you're not really well equipped to give them advice about their situation.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-05 10:55 am (UTC)(link)
fyi i agree with your point and i don't understand why people make such a big deal out of it. i'm not that old but i'm still surprised by how much some people share on the internet. i rarely give out my real first name, much less my last name, nor do i add people from my online communities on facebook and if i published something self-indulgent i would probably make sure to do it under an alt account, because i value being one step removed from everything.

i think there is this notion that if you write something it has to be for an audience so publishing it somewhere is the logical next step, i don't think many people are aware that writing for yourself is just as valid AND you don't run the risk of people insulting literally you by insulting and hating on your self-insert.