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Re: Book club - discussion for Dragon Wizard!
(Anonymous) 2017-06-04 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)I think it provided a nice end point of Frank and Lucille's character arcs, I felt they both learned and grew in a mostly realistic fashion throughout the series (well, as realistic as you can get in a body swapping medieval fantasy book series) so they both ended as more mature and self aware people.
I liked that Swann found a way, more or less, to give Rabbit/Rose a way to communicate despite her muteness. That was always the bit that freaked me out the most about the previous book. I get that it showed the kind of world that lay beyond the usual fantasy tropes, but the idea of someone cutting a child's tongue out was just too much for me.
I even liked that he managed to do something with Sir Forsythe. I think he was the most tragic character in the whole thing. He was cursed for what his father did, compelled to do evil upon evil, but still tried to find a way to subvert that compulsion every where he could even though it did do a real number on his sanity.
It would have been nice for Lothan or Lysea to give Krys the body he wants, but maybe that has to be in his own story and not as a sidekick to Frank and Lucille's story. Plus, does Krys really want the gods in this universe messing him about? I mean, they are kinda dicks even the "good" ones. No good comes of being the subject of the gods favours, that seems to be part of the message of the series. Maybe Krys needs to be the hero of his own story and find his own way of -and I cannot resist this pun, I'm not sorry- becoming a man.
I'd like to read a spin off series, I think there is enough worldbuilding to justify it, but I hope that the author chooses to leave Frank and Lucille as -at most- background characters in it. They'd completed their own arcs, so I'd not really want to read more of them despite how much I loved those two.
Oh and the elves continue to be complete and utter dicks too. I like that. I like my elves to be amoral assholes who operate on different moral codes entirely.
Re: Book club - discussion for Dragon Wizard!
I think Rabbit losing her tongue wasn't the only really dark thing that happened, especially if you read through the bits with them in the second book. All of them came from some awful shit - I know some dealt with rape, and at least one with starvation to the point of cannibalism. The books are mostly very light in tone but they didn't shy away from these subjects.
I was a little confused by Sir Forsythe's storyline and how or whether it was resolved, but I might not have been reading it well. I do think Lysea's "punishment" for him was remarkably cruel, which is ironic because she's supposed to be the ~goddess of love~, but I think the book was intentionally demonstrating that her title doesn't make her benevolent - she may not have been as evil as Natlac, but she was, at least, just as self-absorbed as the other gods.
No good comes of being the subject of the gods favours
I would argue that some good came out of Frank's interactions with Lothan, but at the same time some of that was just fixing shit caused by interactions with the other gods, so. (And he and Lucille could very easily have simply died because Lothan didn't bother to tell them about the nature of the body he gave them so I'm not about to call him benevolent, either - though he's certainly interesting.)
I'd like to read a spin off series, I think there is enough worldbuilding to justify it, but I hope that the author chooses to leave Frank and Lucille as -at most- background characters in it. They'd completed their own arcs, so I'd not really want to read more of them despite how much I loved those two.
Agreed 100%! I want to see more of the characters whose arcs weren't tied up at the end of the trilogy, and Frank and Lucille's story has been told. I'd read a book just about the Handmaidens tbh.
The elves having a different moral code was very interesting and doesn't necessarily make them dicks, though some of them definitely were. Timoras almost seemed to be a slave to their bizarre code. The relationship between him and Theora is quite interesting to me, too. I'd read something about them, or including them, as well.
Re: Book club - discussion for Dragon Wizard!
(Anonymous) 2017-06-04 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)That was a lot of tongue loss in a single week for someone who was still in single figures, agewise. Its just made tongue loss and extra special horrible thing for me. Its thirty-odd years later from all that and I still sometimes have genuine and actual nightmares where I lose my tongue.
Re: Book club - discussion for Dragon Wizard!