[ SECRET POST #509 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #509 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

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Secrets Left to Post: 07 pages, 162 secrets from Secret Submission Post #073.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: 122, 135, 173

[anogete.livejournal.com]

Given your loose definition of trash, I still wouldn't call Twilight trash. The characters are all flawed, often to the point of causing frustration. The "sparkling vampires" bit doesn't bother me like it bothers others. I think it's just a different take on why vampires can't go out in the sun. I don't find Bella bland or moronic. I think she's a normal teenage girl. Not every girl out there can be an amazing, sarcastic, witty, strong heroine at all times. I can't say that I had a strong personality at 17. I don't think many people develop their personalities fully until they are in their early 20's. And, I don't come at the books from an angle of them being a "trooo wuv" story. I find that Twilight is a very interesting study of obsession, masochism, and how blind "love" can make a person.

Simply put, I find there is more there than initially meets the eye, though whether Meyer intended those things is another question. I just finished a Philip K. Dick novel, and I transitioned into the beginning of Eclipse quite easily. I didn't noticed a drastic drop in writing quality, and I've read hundreds of novels in my life. Of course, Meyer has a different writing style and her books are not adult novels, so there will be some differences. I wouldn't say Meyer is as good an author as someone like Ursula K. LeGuin or Doris Lessing or Susan Cooper or even Jacqueline Carey. However, she's not the shit author that all of these people seem to make her out to be. I think a great deal of the issue is just people wanting to seem like they've got discerning tastes. Hell, I used to read Laurell K. Hamilton, but I can't now. I don't like the direction of her novels. But that does not mean I announce that they are trash or not worthy of being read. So many people still enjoy them that there must be something there - it just isn't for me any longer.

Anyway, the amount of hate Twilight has generated is pretty astounding to me. I'm not active in the Twilight fandom, nor do I know many people who have read the novels, so I'm just coming at this from my personal perspective. I've been an avid reader all my life, and I am most certainly not ashamed, nor do I feel guilty, of any book in my personal library. I think I have wonderful taste in novels, but I would never go around and spill such hatred for a book I simply didn't like. It seems like such a waste of time. If you believe something is trashy or "bad", why waste your time reading it, even? There are so many books in the world - why not read one of them? And if you can't stop yourself from reading the Twilight novels, then apparently you don't think they're all that bad. I find it hard to believe anyone would read a novel simply to make fun of it. And if you do, then what a waste of time and what a way to be a jaded cynic.

Re: 122, 135, 173

[(Anonymous)]

Umm, I think B-Movies are fun. I think seeing how awful something can get is fun--robot super midgets plan on taking over the world with an evil death ray, with mounted guns that look like umbrellas, I'm so there. Mocking something is lots of fun. Yes, fun. I like some trashy stuff, cause of all the comedy they can cause. And a disco ball vampire that announces their lover is like heroin is 100% comedy to me. I have read bad Fan-Fiction for comedy...it's hilarious to see how bad it can get. Doesn't mean they are not trashy or bad. XD

Bella is a Mary Sue self insert. Smeyer wrote herself into the books...as Bella.

Funny bone...get one. O_O Wow. You're serious business.

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[anogete.livejournal.com]

No, I'm actually not all that serious, and I'm not crying over people not liking Twilight. I do think I've figured out the difference between you and I, though. If I called something trash, then I would be saying it isn't worth my time, and I would never read it. When you call something trash, you're just saying that it's badly done and you like to make fun of it. I don't mind making fun of things, and I certainly don't care if people make fun of Twilight. It's no skin off my back. It just isn't in my nature to spend the majority of my time making fun of the world or entertainment around me. I did that when I was in high school, and it was just a method of self-defense for me. I did it to keep everything real or anything with emotional impact at bay. I'm definitely not saying that is what you're doing, though. I don't know you at all. I'm just saying that I find my time better spent on things that stimulate my brain, not my funny bone. And there are many laughs to be found in books/movies/programs that have nothing to do with making fun of something. Then again, perhaps that's not your M.O.

Anyway, my initial point was - if you are the person who posted the secret - why are you ashamed of reading the Twilight books? If you're so vocal about your low opinion of them, why feel guilty or hide behind the anonymous tag? I don't understand guilty pleasures at all. I like things that aren't considered hip or cool, but I don't really care what anyone else thinks.

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm not the original poster of the secret, I'm posting Anon cause my computer is a pain. And you can stimulate the brain with funny. Mocking schlocky books and movies and other things with witty banter--is awesome brain candy. Funny can be just as much a stimulate as anything. Life is too short to be so serious.

You can be vocal about them, and they can still be a guilty pleasure. It's like loving candy, even if you know it's bad for you and has no other value other than it tastes good. Nothing wrong with that.