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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-06-08 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #3809 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3809 ⌋

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[Martin Starr, Spider-Man: Homecoming]


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Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-08 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not looking to start that argument again. I'm letting people - some anon some not - say that they took an exchange of ideas and made it personal and hurtful and that's a shitty thing to do.

Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-08 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm trying to be extremely polite here, and I'm sorry your feelings were hurt. But I also think that this is an area (assuming this is with the food stamps bit) where abstract ideas can have enormous impacts on peoples' real actual lives and actually harm them. I'm not sure if it's either possible or desirable to have a completely abstract exchange of ideas under those conditions.

Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-08 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry, but no. If we were lawmakers or lobbyists, then maybe. But the average joe talking about things without inciting violence does not do actual harm to people.

Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-08 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Benefit cuts do actual harm to people.

Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-08 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
See again: If we were lawmakers and talk.

Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Where do you think lawmakers get their ideas and support from? Your just talk is tomorrow's policy wonk.

Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
But that's WHY it's important to talk about it -- and talk about it with civility and not histrionic screaming -- so that maybe, just maybe, a challenged idea can be altered or a compromise can be reached. Because like it or not, we live in a world where compromise is the best way to get things done. Kicking and screaming until one faction gets 100 percent THEIR WAY isn't useful. But there's no hope for compromise if we can't even talk about things.

And clearly here, most of us can't.

Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
If you don't think lawmakers should hear about it, then what's the point of having a stance?

Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
Venues lkike this are great for forming or solidifying a stance. For having stances challenged in constructive ways. Or rather, apparently they're not so great because so few people here want to do things constructively, they just want to swing their metaphorical dicks around and splooge their own self-righteousness onto people they think are "bad."

Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-08 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
And if you want to bring back the thread topic, it's not a cut to say "this money is not meant for for desserts. If you take it, you're expected to buy healthier items with it." And before "but it costs so much!!" even enters the conversation, the beauty of talking and exchanging ideas in a civil manner is that we can also talk about ways to increase benefits for the betterment of society.