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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-06-08 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #3809 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3809 ⌋

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Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT--Dude, I think I mentioned this yesterday--I am all for vastly increasing the amount of money that goes torwards food stamps, and incentivizing buying healthy food by making food stamps "worth" more when they're used to buy fruit and veggies. But attacking sugar and desserts and leaving microvave pasta (and ramen, which kept coming up yesterday) on the table is a load of bull, and why limiting what food people can buy with food stamps/SNAP is so stupid.

Under your "sugar and desserts and soda are evil but ramen and microvave popcorn are A-OK" plan, a blackberry apple pie would be literally off the table, but instead I could eat a nourishing bowl of $0.25 reconstituted fried noodles seasoned with tons of sodium and MSG, or get popcorn lung eating bags of artificial butter flavored fluffy starch. Your crusade has jack shit to do with "health" and everything to do with "wah I hate when poor people have sugar (I mean fun) so no poor people can have any!"

Who cares if they fucking die of scurvy from never eating one fucking vegetable, processed sugar is the *real* enemy! From a nutritional standpoint, there's not much damn difference between white wheat flour or popcorn (okay, some fiber, but the fake butter seasoning is not doing anyone any favors) and white sugar. They're basic fuels for bodies but you can't fucking live on white flour tortillas and ramen and microwave popcorn any more than you can live on soda. Your "don't let them eat cake" vendetta is bullshit.

-Someone who has so far been lucky enough never to need government food aid.

Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
I'm done responding to comments that attest to know what I *really* think or feel. You're part of the problem here, too. It's not all just me an my evil opinion.

DA

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Get over your victim complex. Your words come through loud and clear, they just aren't as non-judgey as you think they are.

Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT--honest question, then. I'm not attacking, I really don't understand. Why sugar? Why not hydrogenated oil? Or bleached white flour? Or white rice? Yes, they are staple ingredients in many foods, or in the case of whife rice the backbone of whole fucking cultures (sorry, I swear for emphasis a lot). But they're still just empty calories. Why single sugar out? Or dessert, for that matter? From where I'm standing (I grew up with everything on this list as The Enemy, and as a result as soon as I could make my own food choices I ate so much junk to make up for years of food policing) it doesn't make sense.

Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
I single out sugary snacks because they're the simplest things to cut with the most benefit of cutting. The nutritional value of a candy bar or kool-aid or a box of cookies is so much less than even white rice which - while not as good as brown rice - still contains vitamins and minerals (iron, niacin and folic acid are added back in) is more filling and is slower to work through the blood, so highs and crashes aren't as bad.

And at some point I just feel like there should be a limit to what the government subsidizes, and for me that limit is processed sugary foods. I don't see this as being any different than Michellle Obama's school lunch ideas, which weren't perfect - mainly because schools don't cook real food anymore and are - but were a step in the right direction.

Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I can't agree with you. I think I'd rather the government flat out banned (bleached) white flour, white sugar, and hydrogenated oil, so the inability to indulge in them didn't become yet another thing to set the poor apart from everyone else, basically a punishment for being poor that is also being framed as "for their own good," but if it's so good, then let it apply to everyone. And since, what, 60+% of the US population is obese these days, far more people than qualify for SNAP, anyway, it would do everyone a lot of good. Of course, one of the selling points that people often forget about white sugar and flour and hydrogenated oil is that they keep for way longer than their un or minimally processed counterparts, so food distribution would have to be improved a ton to make this work.