[ SECRET POST #3810 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3810 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Marvel's Agents of SHIELD]


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05. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]



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06. [SPOILERS for Dragon Ball Z]



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07. [SPOILERS for The 100]



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08. [WARNING for discussion of rape]



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10. [WARNING for discussion of suicide]



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11. [WARNING for discussion of incest]













Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #545.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

10. [WARNING for discussion of suicide]
http://i.imgur.com/nW2vjuz.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

disclaimer: i've only seen the scene once and it made me sick to my stomach

i've seen people include the suicide scene in their discussion of it being glamorized but not call the scene itself glamorous--has that really happened? but i mean, you do have a pretty, young girl taking her life in one of the... less ugly ways (vs. something like hanging, which can go wrong, include an active struggle/kicking, etc) and i do think that's something to consider as part of the whole conversation. (that said i don't think any kind of suicide should be shown at the length hers was. ugh.)

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah it's very visceral and, if anything, triggering.

I do think it was a mistake to show the suicide. if anything, I think you could say that showing the suicide so viscerally makes the other glamorizing things worse. But I agree it's not a glamorous depiction of the act itself.

[(Anonymous)]

Glamorous maybe not, but I still think that they purposefully changed it to make it more ~~visually striking~~ which makes me uncomfortable as a suicidal person. In the book she apparently overdoses, which if they HAD to show the suicide (which I don't think they did but regardless) could still be harrowing. Most lethal overdoses include vomiting and seizures and its actually a very messy and painful way to die - but instead they changed it to the (in many ways cleaner) image of her quietly bleeding out in the bath. And it bothers me that they made that change, because I can't think of a reason to make that change that isn't messed up.

The main effective part of that scene was her parents finding her, which would have been just effective if they had found her post-overdose, or even if that scene had been a smashcut that wasn't preluded by the visual of a suicide.

(I was the OP of the other secret about this show from a few weeks back and I'm still mad about it tbh)

[(Anonymous)]

What's this from?

[(Anonymous)]

13 reasons why

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks!

I do think it was changed from the book to make it more visceral.

[(Anonymous)]

But if it had been a quiet overdose, they probably would have been accused of making it look too easy and peaceful. And a hard overdose might have been deemed too disturbing.

If you want something real and awful and ugly about suicide and bullying, you should read about Michelle Carter, who is on trial right now on a charge of involuntary manslaughter for pressuring her boyfriend to kill himself. The transcripts of her calls are brutal and there are some youtube videos of him trying to believe in himself (he had depression and social anxiety) that are hard to watch, given what ultimately happened. I think she should get punished because she wasn't just encouraging it, she was pushing for it, demanding it, practically orchestrating it, but I'm not sure if it will fit the statute they are prosecuting her under.