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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-06-09 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #3810 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3810 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Out of curiousity, what's so wrong with siblings (or cousins) in a relationship if there's noting toxic and no power imbalances?

Like, I fully understand how/why parent/child etc is wrong, but two people of a similar age who happen to be related (who if they're of the same sex or are taking precautions not to have kids) don't have that same power imbalance.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
In family members that are raised together, there will always be a power imbalance. OR there is a huge risk of a power imbalance. Hell, I think unrelated people raised as siblings should not hook up.

[personal profile] digitalghosts 2017-06-09 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Would say similar to anon above - it is pretty damn hard to lead a healthy relationship with all connotations of how it will affect you - family will be weird, laws will be weird and ultimately people involved will always question themselves or their relationships. Sure, some manage to gain a healthy distance and outlook and my mum's ex co-worker seemed to be doing fine (mum asked why she was saving for a wedding in France as she thought it was a romantic notion her and her no-husband had but nope - some legal loophole and they are siblings. Do not ask me what the loophole was as I only know they married eventually). Also I hate people skipping adopted or half siblings on that as - still raised together and while issues will be more specific to situation, it still has same gravity bar less genetic impact if they have offsprings.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT but like

I think it's reasonable to maintain a norm that incest is wrong, because it is wrong in the vast majority of cases because of the power imbalances and all of the other negative aspects. Even if you have a very occasional case where those negative dynamics are totally absent, I think the argument could be made that breaking that taboo and normalizing other relationships along the same lines is a negative effect.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Cousin marriage is waaaay common all over the globe, and it always weirds me out when (English-language) fandom talks about it as if it was at all comparable with relationships between siblings.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-10 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
Me too. It's not a great idea genetically but it isn't the same thing.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-12 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
This!

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, as long as they don't breed and are consenting adults, I don't give a damn.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-12 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
100%

(Anonymous) 2017-06-10 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt but...

I'm with you. I know a lot of times there's abuse or a power imbalance or whatever, but I don't believe that's true 100% of the time, and when it's not I have no problem with it.
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2017-06-10 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Theoretically then yes, it would be hard to make a moral argument against it, but in reality there are very few circumstances where incest doesn't involve abuse.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-10 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you that a relationship between two related people of a similar age is not inherently abusive. But it only really works if everything goes well. But what if it doens't? What you decide you just don't want to be together anymore? Not necessarilly because of abuse, but simply because you're not happy with your relationship anymore.

How do you break up with your sibling? A person you've known your entire life, a person you share your parents with? Whose side will your parents take? What will family events look like from now on?

Basically, it's much easier to divorce an unrelated person, than a close relative. Socially, you generally have two different circles and aren't forced to interact much.