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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-06-10 04:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #3811 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3811 ⌋

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Re: tokenism versus diversity

(Anonymous) 2017-06-10 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
This is also why every "Chick" in a band of Everyone Else is Male, no matter how awesome or unstereotypical she is, is going to be a token. She can only represent the type of girl she is, and there's an implication that she's supposed to represent all girls.

Re: tokenism versus diversity

(Anonymous) 2017-06-10 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
*generally speaking. Obviously not 100% of the time and rare exceptions exist.
morieris: http://iconography.dreamwidth.org/32982.html (Merida)

Re: tokenism versus diversity

[personal profile] morieris 2017-06-10 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
^^^

Re: tokenism versus diversity

(Anonymous) 2017-06-10 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Bob's the nice one! Bill's the nerd! Joe's the punk! Chad's the jock! Jenny's the... girl.

Re: tokenism versus diversity

(Anonymous) 2017-06-10 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
And this is why so many women hate so many female characters, but no, let's blame "internalized misogyny."

Re: tokenism versus diversity

(Anonymous) 2017-06-10 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think that's always why, though

Re: tokenism versus diversity

(Anonymous) 2017-06-10 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I agree it's not always why but I do think a lot of what is labeled internalized misogyny can be caused by characters like this. There are female characters I love but it took longer for me to find them than it should have because so many of the one or two slots reserved for "the Girl" in so many series used the same damn tropes and there were no slots left for any other women than the most common popular tropey types.

Re: tokenism versus diversity

(Anonymous) 2017-06-11 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Are you talking about real people and not characters? Because if so, this is nonsense. Artists represent themselves and their work, not demographics.

Re: tokenism versus diversity

(Anonymous) 2017-06-11 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
They're talking about characters in tropaic language, I'm pretty sure.

Re: tokenism versus diversity

(Anonymous) 2017-06-11 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
What on earth makes you think this is talking about real people? Do you apply "tropes" to real people?