[ SECRET POST #3811 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3811 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Did the Joker strip the rest of the Batfamily and share the pictures? I mean he stripped Gordon in the killing joke as well and that was also degrading as fuck.

The image just reminds me of that aspect of the story. The blood and torture don't bother me with either gender.

It also reminds me of how allegedly, when the guy was pitching KJ to DC they were like 'yeah, kill the bitch!'

So for me it's context.

[(Anonymous)]

Well the very fact that he did it to her dad as well shows that the stripping wasn't gendered. And he was clearly prepared to shoot anybody who opened the door.


Wasn't that said about what the effects of her being shot would be, and it was "cripple the bitch"? If someone had said "cripple the bastard" or used a non-gendered word to express the same point, or even hadn't expressed the point at all, I have a feeling people would still see massive inequity here.

Though all of it seems to be a bit irrelevant anyway because Joker didn't know he was shooting Batgirl, wheras here he knows full well that he has Batgirl tied up. I can't recall if he EVER made the connection between the commissioner's daughter and Batgirl.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not saying you don't have a point. I just think that in this particular case, she was treated differently in comparison to other male superheroes, such as Batman. And at least some of that is based on her gender.

Because even if the Joker didn't make the connection, the readers, writer and DC did.

It's not simply woman experiencing violence, it's they way they are and how it is different to their male counterparts. Though the line and whether or not it has been crossed is up for debate.

It appears we disagree in this instance.

But these are my thoughts on the KJ, the anniversary image itself well, the artist was able to depict a harrowing moment in Batgirls history. It's all in her facial expression, they way that he's in her personal space...it reminds me that he violated her. (note, I'm not saying she was raped. Though I do see forcefully stripping anyone as a form of sexual assault.)

If there'd been a similar picture of Nightwing and Tarantula, I would have felt the same.

Not saying that the artist shouldn't have drawn it, though, perhaps not for Batgirl's comic or something so mainstream.