[ SECRET POST #3813 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3813 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Daredevil TV]


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[Wonder Woman (2017)]


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[Isabel Maru, Wonder Woman]


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[Sense8]


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06.
[Schitt's Creekt]


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[Re:Creators]












Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 31 secrets from Secret Submission Post #546.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Nah. Captain America 1 was cheesy as hell and trivialized WWII to hell and back. Civil War was a disaster. Maybe Winter Soldier was on par, but that's about it.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

trivialized WWII to hell and back.

Are you for real with this?

I'm okay with not liking Cap1, Joe Johnston's style isn't for everyone. But the depiction of WW2 is well within the historical norms for how we've talked about it in our culture, and tonally extremely appropriate for a pulp adventure movie. Unless you think that the only appropriate tone to talk about WW2 is highly tragic and serious, I'm not sure how you get to that point.

[(Anonymous)]

Trivialized was the wrong word. But it was hard to take seriously with numerous montages and didn't really feel like it handled the horrific scale of war that WW had. The lip service to the internment camp of that one howling commando also falls flat when compared to Wonder Woman's commentary of racism.

It doesn't have to be grimdark but I know the cheesiness rubbed a number of people the wrong way.

[(Anonymous)]

By "one howling commando" I'm assuming you mean Jim Morita and the brief assumption by Dum-dum that he was on the wrong side? Wonder Woman DID go a step further by actually directly addressing TWO characters of color, but very very briefly (literally one line each). I wouldn't really call that a commentary on racism.

[ozaline]

While WW only had one line each, we get to see the lives they live instead of the lives they wanted to live, we only needed to be told what they wanted once to understand. I love the first Cap movie, but I still think WW was better, partly because the same basic plot was there (complete with a character played by a man named Chris sacrificing himself to stop a horrific bombing) but WW had so much more.

Still First Avenger is one of the best MCU movies in my opinion and did exactly what it set out to do, what WW set out to do just interests me a bit more.

[(Anonymous)]

The "one line each" had more impact than Jim Morita who faded to the background and was barely given character. Sameer and Chief were much better handled by giving them character and showing that this isn't who they wanted to be but it's the position the world put them in and Sameer even told Diana she's not the only one fighting these battles.

Considering how much America likes to pretend/overlook the slaughtering of the Native Americans I'd say having Chief point out candidly that white people took his land and the war isn't truly personal to him is a huge deal.

[(Anonymous)]

Sounds like the WW2 super-hero movie you want is The Silent Enemy then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silent_Enemy_(1958_film)

Attack of the Human Torpedo Men!!