[ SECRET POST #3813 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3813 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Daredevil TV]


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[Wonder Woman (2017)]


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[Isabel Maru, Wonder Woman]


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[Sense8]


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[Schitt's Creekt]


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[Re:Creators]












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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Netflix would know if there was interest in the show by being able to see bunches of stats on who was watching it

That's - at best - incomplete. Because viewership in and of itself does not make money for Netflix, subscriptions do. And so you can definitely have situations where enthusiasm is an important consideration - where a smaller number of viewers with very strong feelings might still be significant.

Of course that's not necessarily to say that they should keep Sense8 just for that, I'm sure it was extremely expensive. But it does mean that enthusiasm matters and it makes sense to communicate your enthusiasm to Netflix if you're trying to influence programming decisions going forward.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not really seeing where your point contradicts mine. They know who's watching what. That includes being able to see whether it's a million people are watching the show once per subscription, or a handful of people who watch the show a million times. If it's a case where there's a smaller number of viewers who feel very strongly about the show, well, they already know that because they have direct access to all the demographic information about the people who are using their service. They don't require a petition to tell them that.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure what to tell you. Who's watching what is not the actual information that makes Netflix money. Subscriptions make Netflix money. Therefore, the information that Netflix needs is: what programming decisions are going to make people subscribe, or stop subscribing, to Netflix? And that's not a question that can necessarily be resolved to statistics about who watches what.

Neither the demographic information, nor the number of rewatches, are actually going to give you a real picture of how people feel about a show or a movie. At best they're going to be inaccurate models. Nothing in the viewing patterns is going to give you that complete picture. Usually, it's going to be good enough for getting on with. One major exception is when people have extremely strong and intense feelings about a show. Therefore, it's useful to start a petition because that's going to shape Netflix' views.

[(Anonymous)]

I never suggested that knowing the stats made Netflix money directly. It does, however, give them a great deal of valuable feedback when it comes to making decisions on what shows to continue, what to cancel, what to acquire in the future, etc. Networks probably wish they had that level of detailed information on their viewers!

And yes, petitions might be some clue to them as well. But I don't think it'll be anywhere near as helpful as the vast amount of information they already have direct access to that is not influenced by peoples' emotions. Petitions tell them how many people took five seconds to click a few buttons. Hard numbers tell them exactly who is REALLY interested in the show enough to watch, subscribe, etc.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not denying the importance of data. Just that it's an incomplete picture and Netflix probably knows that.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree it's not the complete picture, but you could never get a complete picture on the what every single viewer thinks and feels about a show. But I don't think petitions add anything of significant value to Netflix's knowledge in this case. The fact that Netflix released a statement acknowledging those petitions and feedback and restating that it hasn't changed their minds would suggest that I am correct about that.

[(Anonymous)]

A large part of the point - to me - is that something like this can influence Netflix' decisions in ways besides just bringing back Sense8. If Netflix sees this as a reason to make more things that are similar to Sense8 in the future, I think that would count as a success for the petition.

[(Anonymous)]

That would be nice, but a little hard to measure the concept of nebulous influence on future projects. I'm also fairly sure that a wildly successful series would be a lot more influential on Netflix's future projects than a petition.

[(Anonymous)]

Not necessarily, because the problem with Sense8 is the budget. If you can satisfy the demand on a lower budget, I think that could easily be a win.

Of course, I have no idea whether Netflix shares that view.

[(Anonymous)]

It's true that a lower budget show that satisfies the demand would be good, but I'm not sure how it relates to my comment about a wildly successful show being more influential than a petition.