[ SECRET POST #3814 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3814 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[sarillia]

I just have this huge disconnect with the whole idea of things being spoiled in general. I accept that there are people who don't want to know much or anything about something before watching it and I follow the rules about avoiding spoiling people. But I still don't understand it because I'm the complete opposite. I hate going into something without knowing anything about it. And I've had to go back and watch things again after a twist is revealed so I can enjoy it the second time around, because having it hanging over my head ruined the experience for me the first time. It's weird. All the coy hints annoy me when I don't know the answer, but then I enjoy seeing how they fit together when I do know it.

Which is just barely related to the secret. Sorry. I agree though. I don't get people who watch trailers and then complain that it actually told them something about the movie. But again, I'm the opposite. I hate trailers that just show me a bunch of pretty pictures and don't tell me anything about what the movie is actually about.

[(Anonymous)]

I love trailers. I don't mind spoilers, and I'm the same way about twists. I love watching something a second or third time and noticing all the foreshadowing or things I hadn't picked up on before.

[sarillia]

It's kind of nice to hear that. The hatred of spoilers is treated as so universal.

[morieris]

Depends on the property for me.

I have never seen a trailer for Get Out, but based upon the near perfect reception, I went opening day.

then there are some things like the last jedi where I want to see right now where the characters are, even just a little bit.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I'm not bothered by spoilers, either, personally. I've no problem with sites putting up spoiler warnings as a heads up measure, or people hiding spoilers in discussions. Like you, I follow the rules about that stuff when talking with people.

But even with the best precautions in place, there's still always going to be a possibility you (general "you") might wind up stumbling across spoilers at some point. Especially if you're going online. And people who are really anti-spoiler need to figure out a way that works for them to prepare for that possibility, too.

[(Anonymous)]

100% with you on that. And I'll also add that with movie ticket prices being what they are, not to mention parking charges, I really want to be sure what I'm laying down a lot of cash for is worth the money. If nothing else then the spoilers from the trailers, assuming we don't get a lying dick trailer like Gareth Edward's Godzilla trailer, do a lot to assure me that it is worthwhile spending cash to watch it. I want to know the story, because I am done with paying cash for stories I ended up hating.

I genuinely do not understand fans who watch trailers then complain about them. Apart from anything else trailers are not directed at fans who will be going to see the movie anyway. They are already in the bank. The trailers and teasers are aimed at the people who are, at best, agnostic about the movie. To get those guys on the hook and that means giving away some deets.

[imperion]

This is me.

I purposefully go looking for spoilers so I know what to expect. Reading the spoiler or seeing an image isn't the same as experiencing the story for myself. I can still be totally invested, despite knowing how it ends because getting to that ending is the best part of story telling.

[sarillia]

I avoid spoilers because I keep trying to see what's so great about going in blind. I really should stop going by other people's preferences though.

[(Anonymous)]

This. I knew, for instance, that one of my favorite characters in a video game I was playing was going to die. That didn't stop me from bawling for nearly twenty minutes when it actually happened in the game.

[(Anonymous)]

Reading the spoiler or seeing an image isn't the same as experiencing the story for myself.

Exactly.

Besides that, depending on what reviews/discussions I read, there could also be a bias in what somebody else does and doesn't focus on in the show/movie, whereas when I watch it, I could take something entirely different away from those same scenes/character interactions/etc.

[meredith44]

I'm someone who hates being spoiled and will do my best to never be spoiled for anything. My reason is that I can only have the viewing where I know nothing once. After that I might very well like to watch again to see how everything fits, and if I really like the movie, I will often watch multiple times, but I want that first experience to be completely without expectation if possible.

Let's take The Sixth Sense, for example. I loved when I first watched it and thought it was about a psychologist helping a kid work through things. Then the twist happened. And I went "What?!" and appreciated it. And then went back the next week to watch it again to pick up on the clues and foreshadowing that went with the twist. I have watched the movie a few times since and have enjoyed it each time, but I'm glad I got to see the first showing without knowing what was going to happen. If that makes sense?

[sarillia]

That I can understand (though that's just not how it works for me and it kind of bugs me that people act like everyone is like you). It's the people who say there's no point in watching something if you know how it's going to end that I really don't get. Knowing the bare facts is not at all the same as having the experience of watching it.

Which is why I at least sort of get what you're saying. It's a different experience going in with knowledge versus without. It's just that the experience without knowledge isn't as enjoyable to me so it's not something I try to arrange.

[meredith44]

Oh, I'm well aware that not everyone views things like I do. I actually am totally the exact opposite of you, as when I first found forums I decided I wanted to know all the spoilers ever and I found that the experience with the knowledge just wasn't as enjoyable to me for a first viewing, so I cut myself off from spoilers and am happy I did.

I also understand that just knowing the facts isn't necessarily the same as having the experience. I have heard from several people who prefer to know all the facts possible in advance so they can then concentrate on the reactions and other things in the scenes.

I also can agree with you on your earlier comment, "because having it hanging over my head ruined the experience for me the first time." When I say I don't like to be spoiled, I mean not at all. If I know a tease like "someone is going to die in next week's episode!" it totally hangs over my head the whole time as I wait for someone to die, so I can't enjoy the episode at all.

[sarillia]

I have to say, part of me is just glad to see an anti-spoiler response that isn't simply yelling at me not to spoil people. Most of the time when I bring this up, people don't usually pay attention to what I'm actually saying but instead decide that I'm trying to justify spoiling people when they don't want to be spoiled, which I am definitely against.

[meredith44]

I don't mind that some people want to be spoiled. And I totally know that I need to do my best to avoid spoilers. So I blacklist things copiously and stay off the internet entirely if something is big enough. I am not a fan of people who don't tag, but I can sometimes live with it. What I don't like is people who purposely spoil because they think that it is stupid to not want spoilers. Like I used to help run an NCIS newsletter. Most of the comms we watched had a rule for using LJ-cuts for a certain period of time (varied based on the com) so that people weren't inadvertently spoiled. One person didn't use a cut, so I politely commented that they might want to add one so they didn't spoil people who didn't want to be spoiled. They took offense at that and yelled at me about how I was being stupid and then threw a bunch of spoilers in the comment to me. Which I thought was rude.

I figure that everyone will have different opinions on the matter and we should just be polite and try to respect the opinions of others if we can.

[(Anonymous)]

What I don't like is people who purposely spoil because they think that it is stupid to not want spoilers.

Yeah, if somebody knows full well that someone doesn't care for spoilers/there's a community rule about them and they intentionally spoil things for those people anyway, they're a dick.

[(Anonymous)]

This reasoning makes sense, yeah. If I've heard that a show or film has a big twist/surprise moment, and it's something I've been kinda interested in seeing, I might personally try and avoid spoilers if possible for it, 'cause there is something fun about having that "What?!" reaction for the first time.

[meredith44]

Yeah, I just love that first response, where I'm following along with the characters. And seeing things laid out without having expectations. Later I can have as many viewings as I want where I already know what's going to happen and I can look at the nuances and reactions and whatever, but I can never have that first unspoiled viewing again. (I'm not saying I necessarily won't like something if I know what's happening. I've been spoiled before. I just like to be able to experience it all if I can.)

[(Anonymous)]

Not knowing what to expect can be really fun sometimes. I was invited to a screening of The Room where Tommy and Greg made an appearance and threw a football around with some fans. At this point I had NO IDEA what the movie was about and the only thing I had to speculate on was the football throwing, and the movie poster which made it seem like it was going to be a thriller/suspense, possibly involving a deranged serial killer.

That movie was a ride from start to finish.