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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-06-15 06:39 pm

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How much of sexuality do you think is determined at birth?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-16 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
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Re: How much of sexuality do you think is determined at birth?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-16 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
all of it.

Re: How much of sexuality do you think is determined at birth?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-16 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Uh. Kind of depends on what you mean by sexuality, doesn't it?

Clearly, the fundamental basis of attraction is biological and pretty well fixed at birth. Equally clearly, everything to do with behavior and identity is socially and culturally mediated in a massively complex way (the same as with anything else).

Re: How much of sexuality do you think is determined at birth?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-16 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Somewhere between 0-100%. Definitely in there somewhere. Although it may take severe mental illness, trauma, or abuse to make someone a furry.

Re: How much of sexuality do you think is determined at birth?

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-06-16 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Don't know, don't care, don't think it really matters.

I think anyone who puts a number on it is likely engaged in pseudoscience.

Re: How much of sexuality do you think is determined at birth?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-16 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Nature + Nurture.

I don't think we understand sexuality enough to speak about it in definitive terms. There's enough oddity and fluidity that I think the trend of labeling and boxing it doesn't do it justice. I reckon it's possible some people are just born gay/straight, but some people might actually shift and adjust throughout life.

The point shouldn't be that us gays were "born this way", it should be that fucking people of our own gender is an okay thing to do.

Re: How much of sexuality do you think is determined at birth?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-16 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
None, but I hate how saying this gets used to enforce the belief that it's a choice. You're largely a blank slate at birth, but that doesn't mean who you become is all your choice.

Re: How much of sexuality do you think is determined at birth?

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-06-16 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Good point. Nobody is born speaking their native language, but barring serious disability, the basic grammar and all of the phonemes are burned into your brain by the age of 5.

Re: How much of sexuality do you think is determined at birth?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-16 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, by the logic that it's all 100% nature I shouldn't make sense. I was always attracted to girls, but grew up in the kind of community that kills and shuns gays but here I am.

Re: How much of sexuality do you think is determined at birth?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-16 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
What?

Isn't that an argument that it IS nature, rather than nurture?

Re: How much of sexuality do you think is determined at birth?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-16 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I think a fair bit nature of the general sexuality, or there wouldn't be weird trends where the more sons a woman has the more likely later sons are to be gay. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/05/men-older-brothers-gay_n_3873772.html

But I think the specific details like if you're attracted to blond, brunette, tall, short, fat, thin, etc. is close to 100% nurture. I can't find a study right now, but I am fairly sure I've seen before where that's the sort of thing that can be trained. Sort of how when you first encounter a new art style in a comic or animation it looks wrong or ugly, but you spend enough time with it and it starts looking nice. So when fans talk about Chase Young from Xiaolin Showdown being attractive people unfamiliar with the show go "WTF?" and people who are used to the show style go "Yep, he's handsome!"
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