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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-06-20 07:23 pm

[ SECRET POST #3821 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3821 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Movie: It Comes At Night]


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[iZombie]


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[New Girl]


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[Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid]


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(Doctor Strange)


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[Fire Emblem]











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Does God deserve love?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-21 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
"God" is the only "all loving, all forgiving" being that would torture you for eternity simply for being unconvinced of his existence.

An all knowing, all powerful, benevolent god could and would destroy evil once and for all. It wouldn't wait over 2000 years for the "perfect time of prophecy" to do it. That's just pointless.

Re: Does God deserve love?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-21 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
"All-loving, all-forgiving omnipotent being" is only one definition of "god," to be fair.

Re: Does God deserve love?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-21 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Are we really going to engage in the problem of evil debate

Re: Does God deserve love?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-21 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
They never said narcissists ran on earth logic.
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Re: Does God deserve love?

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2017-06-21 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I don't believe there is a god.

Re: Does God deserve love?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-21 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Remember that what you're told about God is what humans tell you, having heard it from other humans. Theology is picking at the leavings of a millennia-long game of Telephone. The idea of God we are typically given is stupid and unrelated to reality.

Uta Ranke-Heinemann: "God can't banish evil unless he drowns the human race. And so all he can do is mourn."

Re: Does God deserve love?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-21 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Any idea of any god will always be unrelated to reality.

Re: Does God deserve love?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-21 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, the problem isn't just banishing evil. It's also a problem of lessening evil. Because reducing the amount of evil would clearly be good.

So it's not just that God allows evil to exist. It's that he allows every single instance of evil and suffering to exist.

Re: Does God deserve love?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-21 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Reminds me of the (possibly apocryphal) quote from Epicurus:

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

Re: Does God deserve love?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-21 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
if god can't magically wave his hands and cause everyone to become a good person, then he's not a god

Re: Does God deserve love?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-21 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the concept of free will deals with this particular objection more or less adequately. Assuming that human beings having free will is an end in itself for God, for whatever reason.

Re: Does God deserve love?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-21 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
I don't believe in any gods, but I think the Christian god is one of the least probable ones due to the self-contradictory nature of his character.

However, since I can hate fictional characters just as well as new ones (yay mirror neurons) I can absolutely say that this character is just as worthy of hate as is, for example, Joffrey Baratheon.
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Re: Does God deserve love?

[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-06-21 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
well thats the problem, isn't it? Infinite mercy and infinite justice don't work together, God can give mercy to anyone who wants it as long as he doesn't impose his justice, and the opposite God can dish out absolute justice, but would have to be deaf to the pleas of mercy to those he punishes. The only way to play that is to take no action.

My personal belief is that the fact that there is no natural justice in this world speaks to Gods mercy. I also believe that there is no eternal punishment for a lack of faith. We were gifted with rational minds made to doubt. The ability to doubt had advance humanity far far further than the choice to blindly believe, I do not think this is an accident, my belief is that God could not, with infinite mercy, punish us for using the gift of doubt.