[ SECRET POST #3821 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3821 ⌋

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[Movie: It Comes At Night]


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[iZombie]


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[New Girl]


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[Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid]


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(Doctor Strange)


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

No. A male Asian character was gender flipped and given a different ethnicity because the production team wanted to avoid the Venerable Master stereotype. They got flayed by the PC crew anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

First, do you have a source that says that was their intent?

Second, even if that was their intent, that still doesn't mean that it was a good change? It also doesn't really justify the change, because it seems like it only really accounts for why they had the character be a woman, not why they had the character be white

da

[(Anonymous)]

It was also due to money. Because a Tibetan character would get the movie barred and banned in China.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

could be. and if it was really just about money, I mean, fair enough, I wouldn't have done it that way, but it's also not my money.

but that's also a totally different narrative from the one that anon was presenting.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

Not really. It's an additional facet. You can have several reasons to do a thing.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

But it's a different thing. You said a lot of reasons why they would change the gender, and nothing about the race, which was the part that people were actually talking about, and which this is a reason for.

[(Anonymous)]

No I don't have a source. It was an online interview I read six months ago. They were trying to be more female inclusive, because otherwise the only woman in the film would have been the girlfriend character. They also needed a character where the backstory made sense. They didn't check off enough diversity boxes, obviously, because they got your reaction.

But then, the sort of people who live off check boxes aren't ever satisfied. I thought she was an interesting character.

Also, the other poster was right about Tibet. China is a huge market. Why shoot themselves in the wallet when a rewrite solves the problem?

[(Anonymous)]

But then, the sort of people who live off check boxes aren't ever satisfied.

This is pretty much the specific part of the narrative that I have a problem with, to be clear.

Like, people are raising an objection (whitewashing) that seems pretty clear and straightforward. It doesn't have anything to do with "checking off enough diversity boxes", and all this evidence about how ~~~reasonable~~~ the filmmakers were trying to be doesn't actually speak to the decision that people have a problem with. If you don't think whitewashing matters, make that argument, but this is not a case where the filmmakers were trying their best to meet unreasonable expectations. At least not from anything that I've seen.

NAYRT

[(Anonymous)]

"...this is not a case where the filmmakers were trying their best to meet unreasonable expectations. At least not from anything that I've seen. "

Just curious as to what you've seen about this specific movie that leads you to believe that?

Re: NAYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Well, this is a conversation specifically about the whole whitewashing thing, so.... that.

I think "don't whitewash things" is a reasonable expectation. You might disagree with that. Maybe it would have been impossible to cast a non-white person in that part.

But the filmmakers did whitewash the part, and not - so far as we can tell - for any reason to do with trying to make it more diverse or whatever narrative anon was offering. It's not like they tried not to whitewash it and, whoops, accidentally slipped and fell down and cast Tilda Swinton.

I'm not even saying it, like, makes it an intrinsically bad or racist movie. I just wish they hadn't done it, but they did.

What do you have in mind with your question?

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, it didn't have to be a Tibetan monk to still be an Asian character, though. As long as they were completely re-writing.

[(Anonymous)]

solution: make the protagonist Asian also :)