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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-06-21 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #3822 ]


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(Anonymous) 2017-06-22 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I can't help feeling like this movie is going to somehow...I'm not sure how to put this...distance us from the fact that we already eat intelligent social and endearing animals? Like what is the point of the superpig?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-22 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Because people are conditioned to have almost no empathy for animals like chickens, pigs, and cows so they can keep killing them with a clear conscience. Making the animal a fantasy creature might help remove the viewers preconceived notions that animals are worth more than $3.50 a lb.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-22 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT--over the past two days, I've gone to the vet twice and am going again tomorrow for some baby chicks, one's legs aren't working properly and I have to pick her up and hold her next to food and water so she can eat, and another had a goopy eye, probably because another chick pecked at it. I've spent $90 just on the vet and they're just over two weeks old. All told, considering the heat lamps, electric brooders, feed, supplements, and coop and run, 16 chicks, 2 of which I've had to bury already, cost me over $1000, not counting what I paid to buy and ship them. Considering what they weighed when I got them, they're something like $700/lb chickens. It's kind of like that book, The $64 Tomato, where a home gardener does the math on how much his hobby costs. I don't eat meat, but economies of scale are the only reason anyone who's not rich can afford to.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-22 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
How is this relevant? First of all, the vast majority of meat comes from factory farms where sick animals are often left to die. A chicken from one of these places is worth only a couple bucks, so why would they care about the fate of some chickens when they're raising enough to more than cover the inevitable loss.

Second, I don't give a damn if farmers tuck their animals to bed at night and give them goodnight kisses. If they're raising them for their own ends, to kill them far short of their natural lifespan, then my point still stands. They're being killed because they're only valued for what we can take from them.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-22 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT--the revalent point is, some people are bleeding heart vegetarians and already know that an animal is more than so many pounds of walking meat. I think it's just as relevant to your comment as your comment was to this movie, given that I'm highly skeptical of the point of said movie being to critique factory farming, "Animal Husbandry Is Evil" Anon. Also, the one time I killed a chicken, I was attempting to clean off the mite infestation it was suffering as a result of its previous owner keeping it in close confines with too many other hens; the rest have all died of natural causes, mostly old age.

NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2017-06-22 08:40 am (UTC)(link)
Your personal experience is very respectable, but it doesn't negate that people, in general, are socially conditioned to not have empathy for the animals we eat and that meat mass-production is a catastrophe and yet the meat industry is super strong. Perhaps there are more "bleeding heart vegetarians" now than, say, 20 years ago because we get so much information from the internet. But the vast majority of animals suffer and die in captivity, and yet vegs still get a lot of shit from uneducated and defensive people.