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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-06-22 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #3823 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3823 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-06-23 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
So something that wasn't even implied (unless you count a cliché that's used as bait-and-switch too, just like the one that got subverted seconds later) is at the same level as an action that wasn't seen 100% clearly?

Wow.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-23 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
It was implied, hard, to the point that it's the conclusion most people reached. That you choose to ignore the evidence doesn't mean it isn't there. I'm not gonna wrote you a tl;dr explaining the evidence but I can link to people who did a great job analyzing those scenes.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-23 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not ignoring anything. The problem here is that that "evidence" is flimsy at best.

She seemed like the obligatory romantic interest, but immediately after we discovered she wasn't; there was what Yuuri didn't say using a construction that can be and is used deliberately to misdirect the audience, and... that's it.

Even before he and Victor became close, there was NOTHING about him having feelings for her. In fact we'd more moments of his friendship with Takeshi than anything Yuko related.

That's why believing Yuuri pined after her for most of his life is hard to believe. And that's not even taking into account the "abstract" feelings he mentioned when talking about love.

That being said, I could believe he had a puppy crush on her when they were children and got over it years ago, but that isn't be canon either because there's ZERO evidence for it (unless you count Takeshi bullying Yuuri when Yuuri was five and Takeshi seven, which would be even more nonsensical).

If you want to interpret it differently despite that lack of canon support, go ahead. But at least stop calling it canon, because it isn't and that's the fucking point.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-23 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
You know, the problem with the confession scene is that any other declaration other than "I love you" makes zero sense in context, especially when you take into account the song he's skating to. And then we have the scene when he says that he tried to ignore things by focusing on his skating, a scene that is directly linked to the Nishigori family. What is the no bi explanation for this scene? What did he try to ignore related to the Nishigori family other than the fact that the girl he liked married someone else?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-23 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
He was talking about getting his love for skating back and how skating with Yuko while imitating Victor used to motivate him. It's not unthinkable that he wanted to admit something about that.

Also, Yuuri left all his friends and family for skating, he didn't return home for five years, he came back lost because skating was the only thing for him and saw everyone had continued living. He had isolated himself (like Victor did!) while everyone had a life. That's, like, a major plot point.

And are you forgetting Yuuri never thought about love and considered his feelings for most people as something abstract? That doesn't sound like someone who planned to confess his ~love~ for an old and lasting crush.

BTW, thank for ignoring all my points. At least I'd fun thinking about this, because it's obvious you can't even bother reading or considering something that doesn't agree with you, so talking with you is impossible.