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I'm curious if anyone else likes to compare stats on crossposting fics.

Gen fic, 12k words
Ao3 - Hits: 647 Kudos: 48 Comment Threads: 11
FF.net - Reviews: 25 Views: 2,503

Because... wow. I would not have thought FF.net was still so active. I also like that ff.net's statistic pages make it easy to see and track hits. It's kind of comforting when I click on old stuff that hasn't gotten a new comment/fave in forever, but I can see that it's still getting a few daily hits.

FF.net is getting a lot more active again. People are realizing, pretty much en masse, that they were just going to AO3 out of snobbery value and that FF.net's category system and search system that lets you exclude pairings and characters without faffing around with different search input commands really all beat AO3's tagspam and everything in the same category melange.

Petty, much?

As a writer, there is simply no contest in ease of uploading a story.

I tried to crosspost to ff.net a couple of weeks ago, and the hair-pulling frustration caused by their balky system was stunning.

oh boy I can't wait to have another discussion about how AO3 is literally worthless and should be eliminated and ff.net is the only good site on the internet

Did you mean to reply to the comment above yours? This is unnecessarily harsh at OP

I didn't actually see that comment before I posted lol

but you're right, I'm not responding to the OP, who I'm sure is a lovely person. More the crazed FF.net partisans who respond that way to every discussion about FFnet and AO3 on here.

(and yes, it's just as silly to say that FF.net is worthless)

"but you're right, I'm not responding to the OP"

Kinda makes it worse, IMO. You were trying to start shit before you knew there was any shit to start.

No, I called my shot and I was right

Right or wrong is irrelevant, you were still trying to start shit. It just so happened that someone did get there before you... unless that was also you, of course.

Truth.^

AYRT

Oh, it fit so well with the comment above I thought it was a misfire, lol

OP - I was doing it mainly because there was a named user in a secret thread (I forget who now) about a week ago who was very very insistent that ff.net was awful and dead and there was no reason to post anything there but most everyone else was being very calm and rational about both sites having their pros and cons.

So I was mostly just curious as to if other people noticed there being some things that were significantly more popular on one platform than the other, or other quirks. Like I seem to get more comments on older fic on Ao3, but while I get more overall on ff.net they tend to all happen in the first 24 hours after posting something and after that it's very unlikely I'll ever get another comment on it. Ao3 they tend to trickle in over time.

Were you so reluctant a few years ago to have the discussion when those roles were reversed? People could not wait to join the bandwagon shitting on FF.net and praise AO3 like it had dropped fully formed from Joss Whedon's bare butt cheeks. What goes around, baby.

"like it had dropped fully formed from Joss Whedon's bare butt cheeks"

I genuinely snort-laughed my drink, thank you.

DA

Hasn't FF.net changed a lot since then?

Yeah, that was also silly.

The stats thing really is interesting, especially because you can see that the commenting culture is still stronger on ff.net, I think.

Example:
Genfic, 3.9k

Ao3: Hits - 19,811. Kudos - 1701. Comments - 80. Bookmarks - 466
FF.net: Hits - 8,529. Comments - 99. Bookmarks - 541.

Despite the fact that the fic has WAY less views on ff.net, the number of comments is higher than Ao3.

I am sort of curious, and there's not a good way to tell, if the short "Good job" sort of comments would be kudos on ao3. Or if kudos type people just Favorite on ff.net instead? That might account for some of the comments.

For this specific fic, I think the "quality" of reviews is about the same. As in, both ff.net and ao3 have a number of reviews that are only a few words, and both have multiple-sentence reviews.
I'd have to do a much closer read to see if there's really a qualitative difference there, and how big of a difference it is.

That's neat. I feel like ff.net tips towards few word reviews and ao3 multiple sentence reviews, but I'm not sure if that's my own confirmation bias influencing my memory.

I feel like ff.net tips towards few word reviews and ao3 multiple sentence reviews

This has been my experience of the two sites as well.

This intuitively makes sense, if you assume that kudos and very short reviews serve basically the same purpose from the reader's point of view.

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