[ SECRET POST #3834 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3834 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

If a woman who has been in love with a man chooses to self-identify as gay, that's their call, I think. It seems extraordinarily invalidate-y to deny that. Like, this might just be me, but I kind of feel like any attempt to talk about fictional characters and identity that doesn't acknowledge the social context of heterosexuality and homosexuality is pretty fundamentally flawed. I think it's valid to say that Dean Winchester and Willow don't work the same way here. Reading Dean as bisexual is different from reading Willow as bisexual, because of the distinct circumstances.

I guess people are mad about how that's unfair to straight people, or something. I don't really understand the underlying logic tbh. And I don't think it's a problem however you want to portray the characters in your fic or your headcanons or whatever. But, in terms of how we think about those characters, yeah, I do think there's kind of a difference based on the context.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

"If a woman who has been in love with a man chooses to self-identify as gay, that's their call, I think. It seems extraordinarily invalidate-y to deny that."

Oh, I agree. I just don't think fictional characters written by a team of writers who constantly change count as "women" or "men" like real people do.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure.

What I would say is that the character is canonically portrayed after season... whatever as explicitly identifying as gay rather than bisexual. So at least to that extent, it's textually an element of her fictional character.

[(Anonymous)]

I have no dog in this fight really, I only brought her up as the classic example of the "gay now" character that people fight over.

I do think there is a difference between being functionally bisexual and identifying as gay, vs. feeling no bisexual feelings whatsoever and identifying as gay, but I don't think the text in question delved into that.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure sure sure.