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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-06-01 04:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #513 ]


⌈ Secret Post #513 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 16 pages, 382 secrets from Secret Submission Post #074.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: 104

[identity profile] poisontea.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, as far as I can see, "Mary Sue" has expanded to mean, in fanbrat-speak, "a character I personally don't like who has a fair number of friends/one good friend/another character who's romantically interested in them." I just... what? ;;

I love Gokudera's past, depressing as it is. XD; And yeah, I totally agree. There has to be some interesting stuff littered in there, or else everything's just... blah and boring.

Re: 104

[identity profile] antiva.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I mean, if he had been the obvious main character that got any spotlight and the rest of the cast revolved around him, then I could see it, I guess? But Gokudera is very good at pushing people away and DOES, and people LET him unless situations require him to fight alongside someone else.

I just wondered whether there was a strict definition for the term Mary Sue, but... yeah, I guess it's just 'this is my reason A for being annoyed with him look my point looks so much better like this' rofl.

Oh God, I love Gokudera's past. It wasn't totally focused on to the point of absolute drama, but it was just sweet and sad and understated and aw. >:

Re: 104

[identity profile] poisontea.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's just... the entire POINT of his character is that he tries so hard to be Badass Lone Wolf and he has to learn he can't do things on his own to be a proper right hand man. And his opinion of himself sucks, he thinks of himself as worthless and tries so hard to prove he's not... I dunno, it seems like. Yeah. The point passed so far over this secret's head that it almost clipped the moon on its way past. ;;

Fandom has fail!definitions now. ): Like a girl character being a whore if they go anywhere near the fantard's OTP, even in a platonic way. Y HELLO THAR CLAMP FANDOM, I'M LOOKIN AT YOU. Sob.

I love how Reborn kind of. CAN'T have melodrama. XD; AT LEAST NOT FOR THE FIRST THREE ARCS, OKAY, the stuff in the future is pretty dramatic. But for the longest time it simply didn't take itself seriously enough. It's like... PART OF GOKUDERA'S TRAGIC PAST, which was PRETTY TRAGIC, included his sister BAKING HIM POISONED COOKIES ALL THE TIME. That just wins. XD; The Gokkunmama thing makes me sadddd, though, but the idea that other families wouldn't want a bastard-kid, especially one who was skilled in a very gentle art (forgetting the bombs, idiots WOULD chalk a pianist as =/= a fighter) makes a whole lot of sense. :>

Re: 104

[identity profile] antiva.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Well, I suppose angst can also be seen as drama-whoring on the mangakas part, which could be translated into Mary Sue-ism? That you're supposed to feel sorry for him? But it's really, really reaching rofl. And dude, he just beat Gamma (right? Or is he going to have yet ANOTHER shounen power boost rofl) so I'm so glad he finally won something once. /o/

Hahaha ohlawd. There's the whole 'pure girls are boring' discussion but if the character does date/have love interests/wtfever, she's a skank-ho. ...ROFL I'm not touching CLAMP discussions with a ten foot pole.

Oh, it has drama, but it. Doesn't focus on it, which is delightful because you can just sort of make it as dramatic as you want yourself by filling in people's thoughts about the situations.

Re: 104

[identity profile] herbalriver.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 10:15 am (UTC)(link)
(YOUR ICON. I NEED SOURCE OF IT.)