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I have no patience for that parent in Canada who's raisin a stink about not wanting to fill out the sex marker on their kid's birth certificate.

I mean, look, you can be whatever gender, full-time, part-time or no-gender/nonbinary that you want to be. I may think it's stupid, but you can do it and I'll keep my mouth shut. BUT YOU HAVE A SEX. YOUR CHILD HAS A SEX.

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And that sex is important to the health of your fucking child!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, that's dumb. Your kid can decide later what gender they are, but birth certificates about your biological sex.

Unless the kid is seriously intersex, there's no reason not to fill it out.

It's statistically most likely your kid will turn out to be cisgender, anyway, and if they don't, they'll figure that out for themselves in their own time... and probably have an easier time of it that previous generations.

Yeah, agreed. And no one will argue more passionately than me that we need to eliminate gender roles and raise boys and girls the same. But c'mon, your child has a sex. That can be medically important. Not to mention, your child should have a healthy understanding of what his or her genitals do and how they work, and it makes no sense to try to deny that they exist or something.

try to deny that they exist or something.

Did they actually say they were going to do this? lol honestly that sounds like a reach to me

Edited 2017-07-06 02:35 (UTC)

If the child is intersex, then the sex on the birth certificate should be left blank until the child is old enough to know what sex they are. However, if the child is biologically male or female and all the parts and stuff are where they're supposed to be, then put the damn sex on the birth certificate and just raise your kid to not be constrained by gender roles or stereotypes.

If replying from my phone were easier, I'd have so many words to say. But since it isn't, I'll settle for "so much this."

Do you mean, left blank until the child develops a sense of gender identity? Because if the child is intersex, I don't think that changes short of a surgery.

Yes, until they develop a gender identity. Sorry, I should've been clearer.

eh, like

lots and lots of people do not fit all the biological characteristics of "male" or "female"

at what point in a young child's life is the M or F on their birth certificate actually going to affect their healthcare?

A key problem in this area is that birth certificates in many jurisdictions are a key identifier of legal gender, with all kinds of unnecessarily messy consequences if various forms of legal ID don't perfectly match.

yeah, and that's also an issue IMO

"Lots und lots" ...? No. Absolutely not.
And you can pretend otherwise all you want but male and female humans have different physical traits and different health risks/issues.

dang I wish I could find the article I looked at a few weeks ago but there are a lot of resources, and actually yes, lots and lots. a lot of people have surgery done to their genitals when they're infants to make them conform to one or the other, and a lot of people have hormonal abnormalities or chromosomal abnormalities that can affect their health and sometimes be contrary to their apparent sex.

imo ruling out certain possibilities just because a piece of paper says M or F is both silly and dangerous.

Hormonal imbalance is not a sign that a person falls outside the binary. And no, it's still not a lot compared to the people without those abnormalities.

Literally from birth, if they have a sex-linked disorder. From pretty damn young if they develop a hormonal disorder in childhood.

There are actual biological differences between biologically male and female humans, and even the absence of those differences - assuming a lack of medical intervention creating that absence - can be indicative of certain medical conditions. Biological sex can be very relevant to the diagnosis and treatment of illness.

And a doctor is going to be totally puzzled as to what sexual characteristics a child has if it's not written on their birth certificate...?

Like if they don't know the kid's sex, I imagine they would want to not rule out things that tend to affect male or female children, yes?

The woman in this particular case seems pretty adamant not tk let people, even doctors, know the sex, so I bet she'll put up a fight when it comes to a doctor determining it.

at what point in a young child's life is the M or F on their birth certificate actually going to affect their healthcare?
The birth certificate part might not affect their healthcare, but there are many issues that predominately affect one sex over the other. And as the Canadian woman had a home birth specifically so no doctor could look at their child's genitals (as they put it), I'm guessing they aren't going to want to acknowledge the genitals as part of the child's healthcare. And that is not fair to the child.

I am all for raising children not to feel they have to conform to gender stereotypes. I am a girl who had interests much more aligned with boys growing up, so I definitely can appreciate that. But not acknowledging that what sex someone is can and will affect their healthcare is disingenuous in my opinion.

How many of those issues affect the genitals directly? If the kid has a genital infection and the mom refuses to have that looked at that's utterly stupid, but non-genital issues, which is most issues, can still be treated. Doctors can still look at symptoms and make diagnoses, no?

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