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fandomsecrets2008-06-02 05:14 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2008-06-02 05:14 pm
[ SECRET POST #514 ]
⌈ Secret Post #514 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 13 pages, 305 secrets from Secret Submission Post #074.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ], [ 1 - random link, wtf? ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
Re: (long, I'm sorry!)
I have to admit that I, too, have wondered why the subtext was even there in the first place. Perhaps because the only other lesbian relationship in the series seemed negative to him (Juri-->Shiori), and he didn't want his series to come off like that? It'd expain that heterosexual comment. Perhaps to show that, yes, a romantic relationship can be healthy, despite all the drama it causes between characters in the series? Maybe because Ikuhara himself just likes some fanservice?
I'm not entirely sure, I'll be honest about that, but I don't think he did it because he thought friendship wouldn't be good enough. I don't think he intended to make it go from "girls don't princes!" to "they do need romance, however," but I can't quite say what makes me think that. The best answer I've managed to think of at all is that he wanted to contrast a healthy romantic relationship (Utena/Anthy, although those 2 aren't healthy till the end, really) to the unhealthier ones (Anthy/Akio), or the above Juri--> Shiori point, but I'm not even entirely satisfied with that, and it's not enough for me to simply say, "well, I just don't think he intended that." It almost seems odd he'd devalue friendship given how much thought is given to Saionji's own friendship with Touga, and how strongly Saionji feels about friendship, so I really do have to wonder if fanservice plays into it (since the movie is much more explicit with it). Even so, I do wonder like you why Utena/Anthy couldn't just be friends; maybe the subtext is a "take it if you like it, leave it if you don't'" thing? I really don't know. So yes, that point is one I have also mulled over, and still think on even now.
Re: (long, I'm sorry!)
(Anonymous) 2008-06-03 02:55 am (UTC)(link)And yeah, you raise very good points, and I do tend to turn a blind eye to it because I prefer it without the uncomfortable implications about the underlying message, but it's difficult to un-see something. ^^; I'm glad it's not just me, though, I was afraid I was going to be eviscerated by Utena/Anthy shippers. ^^;