[ SECRET POST #3843 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3843 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Silmarillion]


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[So You Think You Can Dance, Vanessa Hudgens]


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[Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom]


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[Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn]


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[Fargo, season 3]


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[Dark Matter]


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Comments

[fscom]

12. http://i.imgur.com/asvjkro.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I hated how she died too. :( It felt like super salt in the wound that Harry lost her. Hedwig was one of his first connections to the Wizarding World, she was loyal to him, loved him, and was by his side even when he wasn't at Hogwarts.

I just?! GAH! Why did she have to die?!

[(Anonymous)]

People may be more "important", but animals are more innocent and lovable.

[(Anonymous)]

I remember having to skip back pages to find where she died, because I was reading through it so fast that I must've skipped or it didn't occur to me that she did.

[(Anonymous)]

Because it's 99% done for shock value.

[tabaqui]

No, people aren't more 'important' - animals have emotions, are afraid or angry or lonely or whatever just like people. It's that pets in particular look to humans for affection and kindness and treats and things, so the betrayal of them being hurt or killed by a human is worse.

[(Anonymous)]

Unfortunately for our emotional connection to our pets, yes, people are. I don't like people, I love my dog. But if a car was barreling down the road and I had to choose between saving my beloved dog and some degenerate meth slag, I'd save the human. You can't choose an animal's life over a person's, morally or legally.

[tabaqui]

Blah blah blah. I've heard this argument a million times. And you actually *can*. It's all down to if you could live with the choice you make. And frankly, I'd probably knee-jerk save my dog, especially if she were right there and the 'degenerate meth slag' were too far away or whatever.

Life is full of choices.

[(Anonymous)]

I hope you give up your dog, because I really don't believe you love him if you think he's so easily tossed away and I'm afraid of what will happen when he becomes inconvenient to you in old age.

[(Anonymous)]

Damn dude, you'd pick some rando's life over your beloved dog? A dog that's presumably given you companionship and love? I'm sorry, but fuck that. I'd save my dog's life over some random person's. Not because I don't care about my fellow human beings or because I think a meth head doesn't deserve to be saved, but because it's my dog. He's family and, unless they're terrible, you don't leave behind family.

[(Anonymous)]

for what it's worth I'm with you on this. morally and legally...

[(Anonymous)]

Nice responding to yourself, dude.

[(Anonymous)]

actually no but nice try

[virtual_lips]

Nobody has the legal obligation to save anyone else in that type of situation.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe in your country. Refusing to provide help to a person in need is a crime where I live.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. It creeps me out when people value animals over fellow humans. Reminds me of that interview with a Jewish child who survived Holocaust and said that he wished he was a dog, because Nazis loved dogs. I guess we shouldn't be surprised that we live ina world where people are bastards to each other, if saying that pets aren't inherently more valuable and worthy of sympathy and care than children is considered a controversial statement.

[(Anonymous)]

They specifically said a degenerate methhead, not children, but nice attempt at a godwin.

[(Anonymous)]

This is so massively anthropocentric that I have to wonder if you're a troll or just ignorant.

[virtual_lips]

YOU can't make that choice. Other people can.

Also, placing human life over nonhuman life doesn't make you moral in any way, just as an fyi.

[(Anonymous)]

I pity your dog.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought JKR just... forgot about her? And her editor noticed so JKR had to have her killed right at the start. It feels all part and parcel of the increasing sense of loss in the books, but it upset me too.

I'm watching Game of Thrones for the first time and I'm worried about Ser Pounce, the cat. I searched for info on what happens to him and it looks as though he doesn't make it. I'm reasonably OK with what happens to the humans in that series; even the children don't get quite that reaction from me.

/dreadfully ashamed

I think it's that animals are innocents and harmless, and as Granny Weatherwax puts it, we have a duty. I once went round a First World War museum, and the curator showed me a poem written by a soldier when his horse died. The curator said he couldn't read that poem aloud, and I couldn't read it at all. Yet all around were pictures and letters depicting the destruction of that war. And during the war, in the British Army at least, the convention was that the horses were looked after first, the men second, and the officers last. It seems to be quite deeply engrained.

And now I've got something in my eye so I'll stop.

[tabaqui]

Oh, now, I think i want to see this poem...........

[(Anonymous)]

It's in a tiny regimental museum in country Australia - it was just something that he'd written and brought home to his family, and they gave it to the museum when he passed. I don't doubt there were hundreds if not thousands written, just like it, not by great poets at all but just by saddened men who loved their horses.

:(

[virtual_lips]

The way she did it was just so... cruel and unnecessary too.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's the same reason even hardened medical personnel get more bothered by children's deaths than adults. Kids and pets can't understand the way an adult does and they're trusting to others to keep them safe, they're innocent. Someone that you're responsible for getting hurt or dying is a different response even from someone you love but are not responsible for.

When Harry chose to get involved, he chose for Hedwig because he was responsible for her. And that fear that we're going to do something to get a loved one killed is a terrifying one. There's probably also some additional instinctive fear left over from when we were helpless children that the people we depend on will screw up, or just won't care enough to protect us.