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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-06-03 05:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #515 ]


⌈ Secret Post #515 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Anonymous) 2008-06-03 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
When the person talks to their muses, and treats them like real people, and it seems like it's borderline DID. It spooks me right to hell.

"Muses" is in quotes because there's a line between the "inspiration" muse, and the "voice inside the head" muse.

[identity profile] naiku.livejournal.com 2008-06-03 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Right--that's where I was starting to pause a little, because that'd be pretty much saying that almost all writers had mental illnesses.

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2008-06-03 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't you ever talk to yourself? There's nobody there, but you still act like someone is because it's useful.

Still not a mental illness.

(Anonymous) 2008-06-03 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Completely different.

Maybe I should've been clearer, it's more common with people who already have a mental illness, or may be a sign of mental illness. Not all do have both "muses" and mental illness.

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2008-06-03 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Your comment's still stupid. If people have mental illnesses, the presence or absence of fandom won't have anything to do with it.

(Anonymous) 2008-06-03 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I really don't get what point you're trying to make.

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2008-06-03 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Point that accusing people of having mental illnesses when they don't just makes it harder for those that have them to get taken seriously.

(Anonymous) 2008-06-03 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Where did I say "Because you have MUSES you have a MENTAL ILLNESS"?

Because I'm honestly quite confused.

Should I have said: "I knew a person who had DID (amongst other things, I'm not sure because I'm not a doctor) and one way of expressing her DID was through 'muses' and I've seen similar associations and behaviors enough times in fandom to be a little skeptical"?

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2008-06-03 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
You mention muses and mental illness very closely together and associate them. That in itself is idiotic.

(Anonymous) 2008-06-03 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh why did I think I would have a mature debate on the internet. :')

[identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com 2008-06-03 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Fandom is full of playful strangeness. That makes it hard sometimes to work out if someone is kidding, role-playing, stretching a metaphor, being embarrassingly pretentious, describing a spiritual experience, or is actually nuts. :-)

(Anonymous) 2008-06-03 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly.

[identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com 2008-06-03 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I myself am capable of all these things at once. :-)

[identity profile] instrumentality.livejournal.com 2008-06-04 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
that's not anything even remotely resembling DID (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder). playing internet psychologist = never a good idea.

(Anonymous) 2008-06-04 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
Then all the people I knew with clinically diagnosed DID have lied to me then.