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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-07-21 06:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #3852 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3852 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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03. http://i.imgur.com/4sW0XLi.jpg
[Mary Elizabeth Winstead in Fargo, season 3 - linked/OP warned for nudity]


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04. [SPOILERS for Fargo]



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05. [WARNING for discussion of abortion]



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06. [WARNING for physical and psychological abuse]



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07. [WARNING for incest]



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08. [WARNING for dub con/non con]

[Jafar/Jasmine, Aladdin]












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(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
Some are. Sexual shit is influenced by a lot of outside factors, some of which are dubious. Especially societal expectation of women's sexuality that has been beaten into us (that women are all intrinsically submissive, don't know what they want, prefer to be ravaged/raped, etc.). Pretending these factors don't exist is disingenuous and naive.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
When I was eight years old I had intense and detailed lesbian bdsm fantasies, and I could not have had a more normal upbringing. I didn't watch anything that had explicit sexual content, nor did I read anything that did, they were just there and I enjoyed them. Talking to a lot of my friends, it's the same: their fantasies had been around since they were children. Non-traumatized children, I might add.

I'm not saying that you don't have any point at all, but you're heavily biased. It sounds like you have issues with entirely normal sexual self-exploration, and I genuinely hope that you're able to come to terms with them without passing any more judgment on people that don't deserve it.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Anecdotal Evidence: The Post.

It sounds like you have issues with entirely normal sexual self-exploration

I don't, I know perfectly what I like and who I am. I'm just mighty suspect of women who get off on being abused. Some of it may be innate, but I maintain there's more to it than that. And due to historical baggage, there is simply no way to determine if women being into dubcon/noncon is just a product of nature or due to centuries of conditioning and being shoved into that box by the dominant party. Either way, it's frustrating as hell to essentially be told by society that "all girls want to get raped and be slaves to cock" all the time and have women agree with and perpetuate that shit. And I am gonna pass judgment on them, no actual self-respecting human being could tolerate the stuff you see go on in dd/lg communities.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
I don't, I know perfectly what I like and who I am.

Mm, maybe I wasn't clear; it sounds like you have issues with entirely normal self-exploration in others. Of course you know what you like, you impose it on others. Frankly, your argument doesn't hold water unless you consider literally everything that is "traditionally" feminine a box that women have been shoved into for centuries, and I hope you don't assume that a woman might wear dresses only because she's been brainwashed by the patriarchy into believing she likes them and it's her own choice when it's not.

You do touch on an interesting point with dd/lg, though. The history of that goes back into queer subcultures, with butch lesbians as the "daddy." Essentially, it's been appropriated by straight people who think they're kinky, but its roots are firmly planted in a woman's desire to be dominated by other women.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 07:26 am (UTC)(link)
DA

"The history of that goes back into queer subcultures, with butch lesbians as the "daddy." Essentially, it's been appropriated by straight people who think they're kinky, but its roots are firmly planted in a woman's desire to be dominated by other women."

I did not know that and it's fascinating.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

lmao are you seriously trying to argue that cultural and historical baggage doesn't shape or influence how people are in every facet of their life? And look honey, just because you like getting raped, doesn't mean every other woman does or that it's an intrinsic part of a woman's nature to want to get raped (which is basically what you're arguing in favour of by bringing up the weak ass dress analogy). Anon is right to be critical of this kink because unlike, say, fantasies where a woman wants to dominate a guy, rape fantasies enforce harmful popularized misconceptions. I get it, it hurts your feelings to be told that you should probably keep quiet about your kinks, but face facts. You dubcon enthusiasts are hardly a persecuted breed, if anything you're too normalized.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
"but its roots are firmly planted in a woman's desire to be dominated by other women."

Yeeeeaahhh, that's great and all, but I'm willing to bet the majority don't know about this and it's since been thoroughly co-opted by the straights to enforce more gross misogyny disguised under a thin veneer of kink. Go visit one of the many daddy dom accounts on tumblr sometime, if you're female and it doesn't make your skin crawl then you need help.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 09:32 am (UTC)(link)
Where the heck do you live that you hear that "all the time"? And when people are talking about their FANTASIES, why do you insist that they must believe it to be true in reality too?

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 10:34 am (UTC)(link)
Right, maybe I should've phrased that as "heard all throughout my life" for those who choose to take things super literally. C'mon, you have to have your head really stuck in the sand to act like the "women's greatest fantasy is ravishment and rape" sentiment isn't all that's ever talked about when it comes to women's sexuality. Compare the amount of fiction that involves women being victims of rape, being submissives, being ravaged, etc. to stuff like femdom. It's exhausting that, whenever the topic of female sexuality ever comes up, it almost always involves the aforementioned and nothing else.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 09:30 am (UTC)(link)
You're the one who seems to believe that women don't know what they want, anon. You're insisting on it even. And we, the ones who recognize that there's a big difference between liking something in fiction and wanting it in reality, are somehow the ones with the problem?

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 10:08 am (UTC)(link)
Oh sure, women with rape kinks know what they want, that's not gonna stop me from judging and resenting the hell out of them for being the main representation of women as a whole. And hell, at least I don't get wet at the thought of some asshole brutalizing me and not listening to me when I tell him to stop. Pretty warped on your part, anon.