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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-07-22 04:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #3853 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3853 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
That's okay, anon. It's a perfectly reasonable response.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm cool with Thirteen being a woman, but I'm not jumping for joy about it. I wasn't jumping for joy when they announced David Tennant, Matt Smith, or Peter Capaldi either. I'll be jumping for joy when I see that defining moment that makes her the Doctor.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
...when I see that defining moment that makes her the Doctor.

Yes, this.

(I haven't seen Whitaker in other things, and I don't know how they're planning on writing Thirteen. I really hope she's awesome, though.)

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
+1 I love seeing that defining moment. I love it so much.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-23 10:59 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much, I mean Matt Smith wasn't the Doctor to me until that speech he made to wee!Amy in The Big Bang.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-23 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
"when I see that defining moment that makes her the Doctor."

See, this sort of logic doesn't work with my friend (OP here). I should be overjoyed and celebrating the "best" Doctor JUST because she's a woman and as a fellow woman I should be excited if though we've not seen her in action AT ALL.

But it worries me is if anyone, male or female, dares to make criticism of the series when it airs we'll be crucified by SJWs thinking it's just because she's a woman, even if the criticism is do to with nothing about her. God help us all if that happens.
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[personal profile] sabotabby 2017-07-22 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not as excited as some, but I attribute that a lot to worry, like if she's not completely perfect or viewership numbers go down, the Beeb will never move outside of "skinny cis white man" again. Or that there will be a pregnancy storyline. Or jokes about periods and tits. I just don't want to be disappoint.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I think a man of color would have made more sense if they wanted to make a progressive step forward. Not that it would have been MORE progressive necessarily, but would have made more sense. It's not offensive to proclaim the Doctor has a gender and even though he could certainly be more genderfluid than we've been shown, I feel like it implies too heavily that it's this completely different person after every regeneration, which it's NOT.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Why would it imply it too heavily? Ten had whole tearful speeches about a dying and having a whole new person walk away, which was laying it on much more thickly than being slightly differently shaped.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-23 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, but Ten was entirely mad.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-23 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

And I didn't like that either.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I hear you - and recently submitted a similar secret. Nothing against the actress herself, who did a fine job in other roles. I just don't find myself particularly excited about the casting.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. I mean, I'm not AGAINST it and I very much hope that it will be done well, but it wasn't really something I was rooting for. The idea of a show like Doctor Who with a female lead is very exciting in the abstract, but I'm used to thinking of the Doctor as a man and for very shallow reasons as a straight woman, I like it that way. (Yeah, I know not every actor who played him was conventionally attractive, but I tended to have a crush on the character more often than not.)

As long as they write her well, though, I figure I'll still enjoy it. I'm cautiously optimistic. Hoping for a male companion because the usual male Doctor/female companion relationship would be interesting to gender-flip.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
i'm completely expecting a male companion because that's the dynamic they go for these days

but i don't know which i'd hate more, a young schoolboy type with a crush companion or a mansplainy dickhead - and i really really think it'll be one of those two

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
If Bernard Cribbins was up for it, then have him reprise Wilf as the Companion. Problem solved.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-23 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, but the age gap! Cribbins is much too young to be gallivanting about space with a woman in her third century (or however we want to age the Doctor now. Or is it rude to ask a woman her age?)

(Anonymous) 2017-07-23 11:02 am (UTC)(link)
*gigglesnort*
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[personal profile] rivulet027 2017-07-23 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
OMG that would be awesome!

(Anonymous) 2017-07-23 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
oh fucking it's going to be a mansplainy dickhead dammitt

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I have the same worries I've always had in regards to a female doctor; that the (male) writers will fuck it up. I'm scared the jokes will be non stop sexism, I'm scared that they'll write the Doctor as a whole other person just because the Doctor is female now, I am scared it will be bad.

I won't be happy until I see the first full episode with her.

Plus it is rare that I am super excited about a Doctor announcement anyway, I didn't know Tennant or Smith too much before their run. I think the closest I got to excited was with Capaldi.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-23 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
OP here - same, I have never got excited about the casting EXCEPT Peter Capaldi because I knew him as an actor and fucking loved him in The Thick of It. Until I see her in action I can't make a decision either way.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-23 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
I feel similarly. I was a bit more apprehensive before the announcement. I knew it was probably going to be a woman and like others have said I worry how they're going to write it. If it's just the Doctor on adventures as always, it's fine. But if there's constant jokes about it or stories trying to make a point, ugh. But the announcement where we sort of got to see her in action already was clever. I really do hope her outfit is somewhat sensible to run in, but they tend to do alright with the companions, so I'm cautiously optimistic.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-23 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
I'm happy with the decision to cast a woman, I'm just kind of meh about Whittaker being cast. I thought she was brilliant in Black Mirror and Broadchurch, I just can't envision her as the Doctor. But hey, time will tell, baddum tsh.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-23 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, I'm apparently supposed to be thrilled simply because I'm female and so is she, but I'm just like... meh, doesn't it actually just support the idea that women can't be successful without male help? I mean let's be real, had the series rebooted with a female Doctor back in 2005 it probably wouldn't have lasted longer than a year or so, a lot of the reason people are okay with it now is because the men who played the role before did a good job... just doesn't feel very ~empowering~ to me