case: (Default)
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-07-22 04:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #3853 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3853 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.



__________________________________________________



02.


__________________________________________________



03.


__________________________________________________



04.


__________________________________________________



05.


__________________________________________________



06.


__________________________________________________



07.
















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 43 secrets from Secret Submission Post #551.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

i agree the term is not used in a very precise way at all. but if OP is using the term SJW to specifically mean the very extreme end of the spectrum people then that argument has no relevance still.

is this secret true of some extreme people, of course it is. is it not true of many less extreme people who get dismissed as SJWs, of course it is too. it depends on what OP means by SJW which is unclear but you auto assume it means anyone with an opinion and are ranting about it as if that must be what OP meant, is what i'm saying

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, the secret as written doesn't make any distinction between "the crazy people who are SJWs" and "the reasonable people who want diversity". The secret as written is about how people who want diversity are constantly moving the goalposts and are never satisfied and should be ignored. OP is also being very unspecific themselves in their use of the term, is what I'm saying.

And then when you use the term in that sweeping way, regardless of what you means, it feeds into a broader discourse about how arguing for diversity makes you crazy.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
i think maybe you are not understanding my point? for some people, which might include OP, they would never use the term "SJW" to mean "the reasonable people who want diversity" in the first place as to many people, the term "SJW" is only inclusive of the crazy people.

if you read the secret again, it is only about the people OP considers "SJWs". who this group includes might depend, but OP did not for certain include "reasonable people who want diversity" in there; that is what you are putting in.

OP may have meant to do that. i cant tell you either way. but neither is certain, yet you are acting like your reading is for sure correct and i can't see the evidence for that, as written

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I think, even if OP's post is genuinely ambiguous as to what they meant, I'm fine responding to it the way that I have.

My own personal sense is that the term is generally not used in the reasonable way that you outline. My own personal experience is that, when people talking about SJWs, they almost always include the people who are saying that having a woman Doctor is good but we should also be aware that it's not perfect. That's the kind of reaction that people think is crazy and evil. If that's not what OP meant, then I'm sorry to OP personally. But even if that's not what they meant, I'm comfortable with responding to the words they said the way that I did.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-22 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
well, i'm glad that you are doing things that you are comfortable with, lol

i was only pointing out that the posted rant assumes a very broad definition of SJW that not everybody shares, and also a definition that not everyone responding to this secret in agreement may share, which i thought was a point worth making because people tend to assume extremes and get angry with each other