[ SECRET POST #3859 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3859 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Twin Peaks Season 3]



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03. http://i.imgur.com/36jpHpw.jpg
[Marco Polo, warning for (TV) nudity/sex]


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05. [WARNING for discussion of self-harm]

[American Gods (Starz)]


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06. [WARNING for discussion of incest]



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07. [WARNING for discussion of abuse, sexual assault]

(Dumbing of Age, Billie and Ruth)














Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #551.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[mrs_don_draper]

Bless you, Anon.

[(Anonymous)]

OP

To put it another way I see people reblogging the anti-incest shipping thing mainly because there is virtually no social "cost" to join the brigade that essentially re-reinforces the social taboo each time it hits their dashes.

Never mind that almost every argument made against it starts from an essentially faulty premise, which is that it's inherently impossible for two consenting adults of similar age to have a healthy relationship simply because they're related.

That's why I call it "ritualistically performative". It's an empty gesture at best. And performative anti-anything is in no shortage on Tumblr, as I'm sure you've probably seen.

There is also a tendency on Tumblr to insist on a purity-culturish orthodoxy that demands that anything in the least "problematic" be denounced with the fire of a thousand suns. That's what "self-satisfied prudery" is all about, and it intersects with the performative aspect of denouncing a completely "socially safe" thing to denounce.

[(Anonymous)]

Yepppp, pretty much.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think you're really responding to the strongest possible version of the incest argument here.

Also, while I agree that some of it is performative, I don't like the idea of extending that argument too far in any circumstance, because it's definitely not all performative and people sincerely believe it and I think there's a real risk of forgetting that and writing those people off.

[type_wild]

I think the main issue here is that the opposition to incest is just one part of the bigger purity wank happening, where anything deemed "problematic" can be denounced as immoral and dangerous. Incest is obvious, but there's also this trend of screaming "pedophilia" at any work containing underaged characters in sexual situations (even if these characters aren't underaged in their country of origin), and "pedophile" at 18+ people who produce smut of underage characters, or just people who ship pairings with age gaps (infamously from The Fandom That Shall Not Be Named, a fifteen year old with an eighteen year old). I don't know to what extent there's been huge battles over shipping pairings that "glorify abuse" or whatever, but it honestly wouldn't surprise me.

I don't disagree that these people mean well and I don't want to accuse them of taking on insincere opinions, but I highly doubt that many of them take any offline action to stop or prevent child abuse and domestic violence. If you think you're fighting real life abuse by reblogging friendly reminders that shipping AxB is [pedophilia/abusive/problematic/erasure], then you're massively misguided.