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fandomsecrets2008-06-06 05:25 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2008-06-06 05:25 pm
[ SECRET POST #518 ]
⌈ Secret Post #518 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Notes:
I cannot get this out of my head (LOL 3:10 LOLLLLL O DRAMA)
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Re: 109.
Re: 109.
I realise with the example of 109 there was a major trace with the two men but at the same time there was "alterations" to it. So it wasn't exactly copy and paste (although I admit it is in a grey area).
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Let's say someone copies Harry Potter, like I said earlier, and it's all the same... but they add a fairly well written chapter about something in the middle somewhere.
Re: 109.
Plenty of authors do it. They take the original and mess around with it.
They added to it, changed it, and made something else of it.
It's just a different form of art, is all I'm getting at.
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(Anonymous) 2008-06-07 05:54 am (UTC)(link)If someone copies Harry Potter directly, same words, same everything, and inserts a chapter of their own, it's plagiarism with a fanfiction chapter in it.
If someone uses the characters and situations in their own words, adding their own originality, then you have fanfiction. Copying JKR's words is not fanfiction, rewriting her story in your own words is fanfiction. Putting her characters in situations she never imagined is fanfiction.
If someone copies a picture directly, lines and all, but adds a tattoo and a different hairstyle, it's art theft with a token gesture of originality.
If someone uses a picture as a reference and produces something similar to the reference with their own originality added in, then you get some worthy art. Until then, it's just hacks hacking away and trying to get some attention.
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Yes, and you do see this in fanfiction althought most authors put disclaimers up, saying they took her words. However, if you want to use that example what about photomanips. Taking pictures from movie still and altering them for whatever reason. Would you still considered it unworthy art? Fandom in general does it all the time. Look above at all the secret pictures.
Just because you didn't draw it or take the picture, that you just made alterations on it to fit your purposes doesn't make it any less art.
Yes, claiming that you did it all yourself and this is how you draw, yeah that is a no no. Yet work was put into it to make it different, therefore in IMO it is still art.
If someone copies a picture directly, lines and all, but adds a tattoo and a different hairstyle, it's art theft with a token gesture of originality.
Then the same thing could be considered of Fanfiction, they are taking the characters, and sometimes plot and altering it. It's still considered fanfiction and accepted - well sometimes.