[ SECRET POST #518 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #518 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

I cannot get this out of my head (LOL 3:10 LOLLLLL O DRAMA)

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Comments

Re: 109

[spiderhood.livejournal.com]

Maybe our misunderstanding roots in the fact that I don't have any idea who is that "artist in question" you accused in the original post. Apparently, I agree that complete tracing with adding nothing adds nothing (except for quality - I've done a couple of traces myself when people needed a hq version of a screencap that was like 100 px wide - it's work, but it's not art).

And, of course, explicit refusal to credit is also bad.

However, I still think that the problem and the limits of ref usage lie in how you use this method, and aren't inherent to the method itself. Even you said that tracing your own photos is ok. On the other hand, in the original post it was implied that: (1) all referencing artists suck, (2) referencing is plagiarism, and (3) if a picture is good, it is already the reason to accuse the artist of plagiarising an unknown photo. Sorry, I still think this is bullshit.

As for (1), no, only those who don't any creative value are bad.

As for (2), also no. I am an administrator of several wiki-sites, and I know a thing or two about licensing. If the picture is referenced for let's say a pose, this part is considered public domain because it is "trivial" (legal term, not an insult). This basically means that if you could've possibly sit in the same pose and make a picture of yourself, you don't have to do it, you can just use my photo. If there is something unique in the photo, then yes, it is eligible to copyright.

As for (3), it's just stupid. Don't blame the fandom for bugs in your head.