[ SECRET POST #3863 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3863 ⌋

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[Alex James from Blur]


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[Night Court]


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[Top: Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, Chris Pratt
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[Stephen Fry and Elliott Spencer]


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[Anna Faris and Chris Pratt in Mom, S04E11 "Good Karma and the Big Weird"]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously, though, I have so many issues with Hermione. She's a fantastic character but between the way she got away with absolutely everything horrible in canon (like, oh, keeping a human being in a jar for days and days because she was snooping??? Rita was in the wrong for snooping but that doesn't justify kidnapping and imprisonment and blackmail in the least; or permanently disfiguring a peer because she tattled on them due to pressure from the Headmistress at the time; the absolutely appalling way she sends those canaries after Ron--he still has scratches weeks later...; the way she erased her parents' memories without their consent and understanding of why which actually put them in more danger because if they knew the danger they could avoid it, instead they were forcibly uprooted without their memories to Australia without their consent uuuuuuuugh) and the way her fans treat her like she can do no wrong and she's the kindest, most self-less, most wonderful bookworm ever gets to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Some of that is probably because most of these events weren't treated very seriously by canon, either... Which it would have been nice if they had been, yes.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT Oh, definitely, part of the problem is the fact that tonally canon was all over the place, but the actions still irritate the crap out of me.

But then, I've never forgiven Dumbledore for leaving a baby on a doorstep in November either, no matter how the books treat it.

[(Anonymous)]

Wasn't McGonogall watching him all night? If it was that cold, a warm cat wrapped around a baby already in blankets should be okay.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT.

No, McGonagall spent the day before Harry was dropped off at the Dursleys keeping an eye on them.

Then, when Hagrid showed up with Harry, Dumbledore put Harry on the doorstep with a letter and all three of them left--Hagrid to give Sirius his bike back and McGonagall and Dumbledore Disapparated.

[(Anonymous)]

DA - and I'm not defending him leaving Harry on a doorstep because I totally agree with everything you're saying BUT he probably at least used magic to keep the baby warm

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT.

That's likely--just like it's likely he used security spells to make sure Harry wasn't kidnapped. But that's all just guesswork and not actually in the text of the book, when even a 'I've taken precautions for this night' or something would've covered a lot of it more smoothly.

[(Anonymous)]

It's ambiguous where Mcgonagall went.

Dumbledore turned and walked back down the street. On the
corner he stopped and took out the silver Put-Outer. He clicked it
once, and twelve balls of light sped back to their street lamps so
that Privet Drive glowed suddenly orange and he could make out a
tabby cat slinking around the corner at the other end of the street.

For all we know she patrolled the neighborhood for the rest of the night.

+1

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, most of that was treated as "humorous" incidents or sad for her because her parents forgot who she was.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT. Ngl I was so frustrated during the whole 'I'm so sad they won't remember me!' thing at the Burrow because damn, she did that without their consent. How dare she.

[rosehiptea]

I agree on most of this but I think the issue with her parents is that they couldn't avoid the danger. She had enemies who could read minds and find anyone anywhere in the world, so she did the only thing she thought she could under the circumstances. That said, canon does kind of just brush it off like it's not a big deal which is weird.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT. Honestly, though, the problem I have is that they never got to make up their own minds about that. She took that choice from them. That's the problem I have with it. I still think it would've been a dumb idea anyway to erase their memories (surely they could've gone on a sabbatical to Australia without having their memories erased!), but if they'd known what was going to happen and agreed with it, it wouldn't have bothered me so much.

[rosehiptea]

I'm pretty sure that if she thought going to Australia alone was enough to save them she would have just told them to go to Australia. I think her fear was that if they told anyone at all they were her parents then the Death Eaters, dementors etc. would be after them.

I do see your point though. Plus I'll admit that canon doesn't say that, so we don't really know.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm pretty sure that if she thought going to Australia alone was enough to save them she would have just told them to go to Australia.

This. What Hermione did had to be done (or at least that's how the story intends you to see it). If her parents agreed to it, she'd have had to do it, and if her parents didn't agree to it, she'd still have had to do it.

It wasn't Hermione placing what she wanted above her parent's right to choose for themselves. It was Hermione knowingly doing something pretty horrible to them because the entire wizarding world (and probably a big chunk of the rest of it too) was at stake. I admire the hell out of her for having the strength to do what she did.

[(Anonymous)]

Was the memory erasure meant to be permanent? I can't remember if that was ever addressed. Seems like a practical issue when Hermione is barely an adult and probably doesn't really have any financial assets of her own or anywhere to go besides Hogwarts and the Weasley's house. Plus, there was no reason not to restore their memories after the battle was over.

Also, does she not have any extended family? What about her parents' friends? Neighbors? Even if her life is basically 99% Hogwarts and 1% parents, other people would know she exists. Did she erase everyone's memories?

[(Anonymous)]

Hermione does mention that if she survives the war she'll go find them and lift the enchantment and that, if not, she thinks she's done a good enough job to keep them happy as they are. Which... is creepy all on its own, honestly.

And, yeah, the extended family is never addressed at all.

[kutsuwamushi]

She's a fantastic character but between the way she got away with absolutely everything horrible in canon...

I disagree with people singling Hermione (or any other individual character) out for this. As other people have said, the canon doesn't treat these events seriously--and that's because the entire canon's perspective is different than ours. Things that would be absolutely terrible in the real word are underplayed because it increases the whimsy; there's a kind of slapstick element to it. Children get battered in a violent sport, mauled by wild animals, dropped out of windows--but it's okay because this is a world where psychological repercussions don't really exist and magic means none of them are permanently hurt. Things only become serious when it's important to the narrative that they be serious.

It's one thing if you want to interpret the canon as being full of terrible people making terrible choices. But I just don't think it's good evidence that a particular character is awful, etc, because it's hypocritical to apply the standards of our world just to the characters you dislike.