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⌈ Secret Post #3873 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

The argument has never been that there aren't toxic people and communities in various places around fandom. Of course there are. The argument, at least for me, has been about whether it's useful to turn that into a political critique where all those toxic people and communities get generalized into a single phenomenon called SJWs.

anyway, that aside, I'm sorry about that community sucking.

[(Anonymous)]

I find it useful in that it's a useful term to mean "all those toxic people and communities who wear supposed social justice as a shield" just like "alt right" has a meaning, and it's not "everyone who is conservative."

I'm not defending either of those groups. But both are handy terms, and I'm pretty sure non-extreme people get accused of being alt-right by the left, as much as non-extreme people get accused of being SJWs by the right. That's just how words work.

[(Anonymous)]

What is your thing with the phrase 'alt-right', anon

What's your deal

[(Anonymous)]

I... don't know what that has to do with my post?

I used alt right as an example because it's the obvious other extreme end of the spectrum that people get accused of being and easily able to be compared to the term SJW?

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe I'm being crazy. It just feels like every discussion about this we've had recently has seen someone making the same broad point about the use of the term 'alt-right' and how it's parallel to SJW and it seemed weird/over-committed.

I don't think it's necessarily a perfect comparison personally for various reasons but whatever. The broader point I would make to your post is that I don't think it's ever especially useful to have a term that means "specifically the bad or disruptive members of a particular group" because no word ever actually gets used that way. If people are attempting to justify the usage of 'alt-right' on those terms, then it's a bad justification.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh. I dunno, to me SJW aka liberal extremists and alt right aka conservative extremists are natural opposites, maybe it is for other people too? I can see why they would bring it up as a comparison if someone is saying the term SJW is meaningless.

I didn't mean "bad or disruptive" as much as "extreme" anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep, they're two sides of the same coin.

They both love labels until they get labeled.

[(Anonymous)]

I wouldn't phrase it that way, they're opposite ends of a spectrum, more like. The only thing really they share is the extremeness but they share that with every other extreme group? And they're not all the same.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure sure. I see where you're coming from, I just don't think that "extremist left-leaning person" is very close at all to the way that people actually use the word SJW, and so you end up combining all sorts of different things and overgeneralizing again if you try to use it that way. And the same could certainly be said for the way that "alt-right" gets used at times.

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt is a troll trying to start shit. Ignore them.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sure you'd never generalize. Like you'd never automatically label someone alt-right for disagreeing with you. Never!

[(Anonymous)]

I probably wouldn't? I mean, I'd at least try to be more specific with the language. I don't think I'd call someone alt-right unless they actually had a pepe in their username or whatever.