[ SECRET POST #3878 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3878 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

personally, it's not my favourite category? more like my least favourite, really. i never cared about teenage angst, not even as a teenager (the deeply cliché reason being that i had bigger problems than whether or not some other kid liked me or whatever), and the teenage protagonist somehow manages to feel even less relatable to me now as an adult.

BUT: i definitely see what you mean in regard to the subgenres and themes – there is a lot more than 'just' werewolves and vampires in ya, and it would be nice if people acknowledged that. same with not all the writing necessarily being bad or overly simple; that one is an extremely popular complaint all kinds of fiction gets, and it usually just solidly points you into the direction of someone who doesn't read particularly much to begin with. gems are rare across the board, and... that's just always been a truth in all of literary history. just because we didn't keep as meticulously track of the shitty fiction of ye olden days, doesn't mean it didn't exist in abundance. (side note: i'm a huge fan of the pseudo-theory that one of the main reasons why a lot of classic literature gets a certain degree of praise these days rests with the fact that it seems like such a revelation to the reader when they get a reference to a historical event or lesser known circumstances of that time, both of which would have been ham-fisted and plain to a lot of contemporary readers. doesn't make them bad or dimmish their value, but i do feel like a lot of people don't consider that aspect.)

BACK TO THE POINT: i also think that a lot of the distaste for ya fiction comes from a place of disregard for teenagers/young adults. that's in part because common teenage angst is a little ridiculous in hindsight, maybe some degree of shame for one's own teenage self, and just a general social attitude towards kids/teenagers that doesn't take them very seriously as thinking individuals – which is a line of thinking that would get challenged very quickly depending on the themes of some ya novels, and that's not always a fun experience.

[(Anonymous)]

BACK TO THE POINT: i also think that a lot of the distaste for ya fiction comes from a place of disregard for teenagers/young adults. that's in part because common teenage angst is a little ridiculous in hindsight, maybe some degree of shame for one's own teenage self, and just a general social attitude towards kids/teenagers that doesn't take them very seriously as thinking individuals – which is a line of thinking that would get challenged very quickly depending on the themes of some ya novels, and that's not always a fun experience.

I take teenagers very seriously. I respect their thinking and learn a lot from some of them. Yes I'm on Tumblr and I learn a lot there. Young people really think about things, and many of them are wise beyond their years, passionate about life, society, and the future. I learn a great deal from teenagers and young people, all the time.

But not particularly or generally from the fictional ones. To be honest, most of those are written by adults. And, unless we're talking about indie publishing, they're also packaged for mass market, and many are not really designed to challenge. They're designed to make money from the largest possible audience. I'm not saying there's not some good ones, because obviously there are, but the fact that something's been published by a major publisher doesn't really mean squat to me lately.

[(Anonymous)]

"the fact that something's been published by a major publisher doesn't really mean squat to me": this. And it has been like that for a while with all kinds of fiction for me (more than ten years actually). The exception is scientific literature. I wonder if that will change too.