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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-08-26 03:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #3888 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3888 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-08-26 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
In high school a friend of mine was 15 or 16 at the time, I don't remember her exact age, but she was dating an older guy, older than 18 because he wasn't a high schooler anymore. And guess what, nothing abusive happened and they were a lovely couple and happy together. So yes, excuse me if I facepalm at this "adults dating underagers is WROOOOONG". It depends of the people involved and the relationship, not the numbers.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-26 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Listen, if you actually want to defend 15 year olds having relationships with adults and arguing against the concept of statutory rape, that's one thing, but it's a whole completely different argument to the one that I'm replying to

I also don't really agree with this argument - I think relationships like the one that you're talking about are closer to the exception than the rule - but saying that relationships between 15 year olds and adults are actually fine is responding to OP's secret in a completely different way.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-26 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I really doubt most people have an issue with an 18 or 19-year-old dating a 16-year-old.

But my god, if I hear "age is just a number", I'm going to scream. I don't care how ~mature~ a 16-year-old is, it's fucking gross for a 30-year-old to be sexually interested in and dating them, period.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-26 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Age means nothing to a bunch of drawings. It's not real. No one is being harmed by putting fake people in skimpy clothes. I'd like to hear your rationale on murder simulators being somehow okay and morally better than "sexualizing underage girls." OH, they're not real? Funny.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-26 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2017-08-26 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Really? Because I saw someone claiming - in all apparent sincerity - that a six year age gap, between an 18-year-old and a 24-year-old, was 'creepy' and 'suspicious'. *Six* *goddamn* *years*.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 09:42 am (UTC)(link)
Welcome to fandom. Because a bunch of people call you pedophile for precisely that age gap. See: Otabek Altin and Yuri Plisetsky of Yuri!!! on Ice, whose canonical friendship they also decry as inappropriate.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's fucking groooooooooooossss!!!"

Go back to tumblr.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-26 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it possible for a fifteen year old to have sex with someone much older in a way they enjoy and feel good about? Yes. But is the older person in the right for having sex with a fifteen year old? No. Completely regardless of how the fifteen year old feels during or after, the adult is still wrong to have had sex with them.

Do I think the statutory rape of a minor is just as bad when the minor is an eager participant as it is when the minor is coerced? Hell, no. But it's still an illegal act, and that law exists for a very good reason. As an adult, the older party should have the maturity to understand that, even if the younger party doesn't.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
Its people like you who take on a preachy tone and think the shit that comes from your subintellectual mind seems logical.

You basically answered your own question and contradicted it in the second sentence. The point of being a teenager is to develop sexually, once they choose to be sexual that's the end of the argument. Some backpedaling technicality like the age of a sexual partner does not counter the point that a teen has the ability for sex.

Don't purposely try to judge an adult when you already condone the act of sex. Dramatic age differences are always frowned upon so that shit isn't new. People can generally make the right call if it's weird or if it's acceptable. The worst you can do is judge by the way, but that doesn't stop anyone.

Nevermind. Sex is icky and must be shielded from innocent eyes!

NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
God this whole comment is creepy and just epically fails to understand why age of consent is a thing. Like, wow, anon. Wow.

Re: NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
Sex is creepy! Yikes!
Age is creepy! Yikes!

The world is creepy outside of my purity bubble! Yikes!

Word policing vague descriptions twist an argument to sound creepy in my head!

Re: NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
You... do realize there's a distinction between teenagers being sexual with *each other* and with nominally overage adults? (yes, there is a reason why we say even 14 + 19 is just a *little* creeptastic)

NAYRT the second

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 07:06 am (UTC)(link)
Holy shit, anon.

If a fifteen-year-old is assuring you they're ready for sex and they want it with you, it's your responsibility as an adult to recognize that they may be right, but they may also be making a mistake. And it would be selfish to an unethical degree to accept the consent of a person who - for the protection of them and millions of others of their age - has been deemed unable to consent by law.

Seriously, we're talking about your attitudes towards real life young people here. Please, please comprehend this.

Re: NAYRT the second

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
Both sides of the argument even out. What's with the mock outrage and pearl clutching? Fuck off already.

Maybe this hasnt dawned on you about real life/the adult world but everyone ((including teens)) has accountability no matter how much coddling you think sheltered middle class America owes you. Thank you for speaking on the behalf of the "millions" of sexually confused 14 and 15 year olds out there. Like adolescents are coma victims who lack a sense of free will or gravity. Sex is taboo after all and only for grown ups.

Not sure where you're going with tacking on a lecture about the age of consent laws unless you're just strawmanning.

Re: NAYRT the second

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
I'm the original OP, and how the hell you see consent laws as irrelevant here is utterly beyond me. I just- yeah-. Just please, please don't fuck any fifteen-year-olds.

Re: NAYRT the second

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
You're pretty invested in your own troll thread for someone who thinks a toddler and a teenager are the same thing.

You're an annoying cunt who gets off on ordering people around I guess.

Re: NAYRT the second

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
cunt

Please, Mr. Rational Logical Redditor Neckbeard, tell us more about "ephebophilia"!

Re: NAYRT the second

(Anonymous) 2017-08-28 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
"Troll!" says the person advocating for ignoring age of consent laws, and calling people cunts on the internet. Sure man, sure.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)
A girl I went to high school with started dating a senior in her freshman year. They got serious, so when he graduated they continued dating. Was he supposed to suddenly stop seeing her at a certain age because "oh noes"?

(Anonymous) 2017-08-28 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
I had the same age gap with my very first boyfriend. He graduated and went to college, but we still kept dating because we really liked each other. We ended up being together for five years and are still friends to this day some fifteen years later.