[ SECRET POST #3888 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3888 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

"it's an irrelevant question because talking about sexualizing 7-year-olds isn't a defense of sexualizing 15-year-olds"

yes. and in turn, talking about sexualizing 15-year-olds is not a defense of sexualizing 7-year-olds. that's all that needs to be said. op is the one bringing both into the conversation and comparing them and finding them insufficiently different.

personally, i think "there is a moral distinction between the involvement of 7 year olds and 15 year olds and asking which it was for context because they are vastly different contexts" is a valid rebuttal to "get the fuck out of here asking whether they were 7 or 15 and just stop sexualizing teenagers, you pedophile defenders"

the only way your argument stands up is if you ignore that they're accusing everyone of defending pedophilia, which you somehow seem to with very convoluted rationalization and apologism that i dont think op deserves.

[(Anonymous)]

"get the fuck out of here asking whether they were 7 or 15 and just stop sexualizing teenagers, you pedophile defenders"

But like. The very way that you're phrasing it here gets at the point that OP does draw a distinction between those two things, and is not just saying that sexualizing 7 year olds is the same as sexualizing 15 year olds. because clearly they're not including 7 year olds when they talk about teenagers, because nobody would include 7 year olds as teenagers, because 7 year olds aren't teenagers.

Argue that the OP is misusing the word "pedophilia" if you want, argue that they're wrong on the merits if you want, but please at least stop misinterpreting OP and claiming that they see no difference between 7 and 15 year olds, when they clearly do see a difference.

[(Anonymous)]

wait. are you op so that you know that i am "misinterpreting" you? or are you simply so sure that you have read the secret correctly and literally everyone else in the thread who has reached the opposite conclusion is wrong?

if op is drawing a distinction, they are drawing it then saying it doesn't matter. everyone else is arguing that yes, in some contexts, it does matter. that's what it boils down to, tl;dr aside.

[(Anonymous)]

I am not OP but I am fairly confident in my belief that your reading is wrong

if op is drawing a distinction, they are drawing it then saying it doesn't matter.

they are saying it doesn't matter with regards to the specific question of whether sexualizing teenagers is OK, because it is irrelevant to the question of whether sexualizing teenagers is OK, not because teenagers and pre-pubescent kids are literally the same

[(Anonymous)]

"they are saying it doesn't matter with regards to the specific question of whether sexualizing teenagers is OK"

yes, and when something doesn't matter, you're dismissing it as equivalent for the purposes of the question, and everyone seems to disagree with them in saying that it depends on context and asking such a question to determine whether the character in question was 7 or 15 is relevant to how they would judge something as OK or not.

it's not really difficult to understand. people simply don't agree with op.

[(Anonymous)]

yes, and when something doesn't matter, you're dismissing it as equivalent for the purposes of the question,

No. It's not equivalent to the purposes of the question, it's just not relevant to the purposes of the question. 7-year-olds don't have any bearing on whether it's OK to sexualize teenagers. They're different questions.

it's not really difficult to understand. people simply don't agree with op.

I don't think people would agree with the OP regardless of how you interpret the secret, though. I mean, people in the comments are categorically arguing that 15 year olds sleeping with adults in *real life* is fine.

[(Anonymous)]

sigh man, dont purposely mischaracterize "people in the comments" to make your point. one person is defending that happening in real life. one other person is talking about a situation in which a 15 year old is dating a 17 year old who then turns 18. everyone else is talking about fictional or hypothetical scenarios.

here, let me provide you with an example conversation.

"oh no, a child is being sexualized"
"are they 7 or 15?"
"omg why does it matter if they're 7 or 15 they're still underage"
"it changes the context of the situation"
"it shouldnt matter. sexualizing teenagers is still wrong"
"i would say for the 15 year old there is much more room than the 7 year old for context to determine that, so it matters"
"you pedophile defender, it's always wrong"
"i didnt say it wasn't wrong, i said it was different"
"it shouldn't be!"
"i disagree"

accurate enough?

[(Anonymous)]

But the line is also used as a defense of ships, not just in the specific scenario that you envision here where it's some kind of gotcha

[(Anonymous)]

what line are you talking about? i don't see any gotcha in the hypothetical conversation i posted. if you mean the 7 or 15 line, considering it some kind of gotcha question to ask for more information to clarify a situation is a little weird

care to provide an example of how it's used to defend ships? and, is your point that since it is used to defend ships, it is bad? i'm not sure what you're saying here.

[(Anonymous)]

+100000 to all of your comments in this thread, anon, and also, have you considered the fact that you're too good for this place? I'm serious. You've made some really well thought-out, well-articulated comments here and I just feel like it's such a waste.

[(Anonymous)]

Hello OP.