[ SECRET POST #3888 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3888 ⌋

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Comments

Re: TW: rape and child abuse

[(Anonymous)]

Tbh, there's a pretty big difference between consensual/non-consensual labelling in fanfic vs. real life. Or I shouldn't say it's different, exactly, but if I saw a "non-con" warning I would expect to see a clearly forced rape scene or at least clear indication that one of the characters doesn't want it or is coerced into it. A character actually wanting it, no matter their mental capacities, doesn't strike me as a "non-con" warning for fic unless, say, there is later a portion where the character does consider themself to be raped (like drunk sex followed by a character coming to consciousness and clearly feeling shocked and horrified by what happened) - or the narration is focused in on the person having sex being predatory.

Not that there's no freedom to discuss consent in fandom, but fanfic warnings aren't only warnings, they are kink tags and general categorizing methods as well. It's not really a statement on real issues of consent. I don't know the fic in question, but if a abused character really wants sex, and someone has sex with them, it's at least shallow consent and therefore I'm not sure it merits a non-con warning.

It's especially worth noting that when fanfic uses supernatural scenarios (like omega-verse), we can't really judge it by real life criteria. Plus, while you can argue it's dirty and predatory to prey on a teenage character without a childlike mentality, in the context of fiction, can you just deny that character any agency over their own sexuality?

So anyway, you probably will disagree with my opinion, but I don't think fanfic tags even remotely have the capacity to demonstrate issues of consent beyond a very superficial level (especially in the context of romance fic, which is well-known for being murky in that area). Personally in real life, I don't believe minors can "consent" to sex with adults, but in the context of fiction, a 16-year-old having enthusiastic, "consensual" sex with an adult wouldn't be correctly labelled "non-con" because that isn't the focus of the scenario at all. Without reading the fic you described, a dub-con tag might've been a better fit in this case, but I wouldn't label something non-con unless the characters are specified to not want it, or the narration otherwise indicates it is non-consensual.

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[(Anonymous)]

I would actually have been fine if they just put underage sex. It was the specifying of consensual that bugged me. Better to leave the warning out than to put something that is blatantly wrong. If not non-con, then at least there was some dubcon going on there. It certainly wasn't clearly consensual as the warning claimed.