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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-08-30 06:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #3892 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3892 ⌋

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[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-08-31 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Loli not as in lolita style but "creepy young girl fetish character"

Are you down to "humpty dumpty" discourse where you can define words willy nilly absent the cultural context of use?

You brought up bishounen stereotypes. And the only thing I said is that visually, at least one guy meets the "bishounen stereotype" mark quite a bit.

Yes, and as I pointed out, referring to a 40-year old father character as a "pretty boy" stretches that word beyond all proper meaning. If that's the extent of your argument, might as well just admit that you're an ignorant contrarian who doesn't understand what "bishounen" means as a narrative trope, and arguing from a position of ignorance as to what the game actually says about the character in question.

Everything else here has been intentionally misreading thing on your part/interpreting things into it that were never said.

Really? I've responded directly to what you've said. The problem is what you've said is a bunch of ignorant bullshit, both about the game you're trying to interpret, and the genre you're trying to shoehorn the character into.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-31 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
By this point, you're just making shit up to be offended over, so nah, not going to continue this. Some of the things you claim are plain wrong, but if you want to lie and goalpost-move your way some more, go ahead.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-31 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
It's pretty clear you're not operating on the same understanding of anime fandom that the people you're arguing are. Loli was very obvious given the context and many terms like BL, bishounen, and hentai have had their definitions altered some which usually happens with foreign loan words.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-08-31 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
If Damien is bishonen, why not Sir Ian? He is, after all, both strikingly beautiful and a boy if we're going that far.

And again, why are you stubbornly insistent in applying a Japanese trope with significant gender, anti-gay, anti-trans, and body-policing bias to a 40-ish father in an American LGBTQ-centric game? Why must I view Damien in your terms, and not in reference to the Goth culture he claims?

(Anonymous) 2017-08-31 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

They're not defining the word willy nilly, you're just ignorant of what it actually means.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-08-31 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Do I really need to quote to you the multiple definitions and commentary on the topic, all of which center around the following characteristics:

1. young
2. beautiful
3. primarily a Japanese pop culture phenomenon
4. effeminate
5. homosexual

(Of which, only two apply to Damien.)

(Anonymous) 2017-08-31 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Not that word.