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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-09-03 04:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #3896 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3896 ⌋

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[Me Before You (film/novel)]


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[Star Trek TOS]


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[Persona 5]


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[Andy Brennan and Lucy Moran from Twin Peaks]


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[David Bowie, "The Man Who Fell to Earth"]


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[Broadchurch]













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Re: Washington Post again

(Anonymous) 2017-09-03 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you really think a mild "more aggressive than they need to be" is an accurate summation of smashing windows, setting fires, and beating people?

These are not peaceful protesters who get out of hand. These are people showing up intending violence.

Re: Washington Post again

(Anonymous) 2017-09-03 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
smashing windows, setting fires, and beating people?

First of all, whatever you may think of these three things, they are not actually morally comparable to each other. Smashing windows is not actually as bad as beating people up. And classing them together like that is misleading because it allows you to pretend that antifa does all three equally and without provocation which is simply not the case. They shouldn't break windows either but if the worse you have to say about how they threaten free speech is that they break windows, that's a real different narrative.

These are not peaceful protesters who get out of hand. These are people showing up intending violence.

They're radical protesters. Some of them probably show up intending violence. That's, again, not the same as saying that they're all thugs who show up to beat innocent protesters. Again, I'm not defending everything that antifa has ever done. But I don't think it's accurate to pretend that they're thugs inciting violence when that's not the case.

Re: Washington Post again

(Anonymous) 2017-09-03 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Sooo... property damage in response to words we disagree with is okay? Because it's not okay in my world. Just because it's a "lesser crime" does not excuse it in any way. It's still violent thuggery. It's still them saying "shut these people up we don't like, or we will throw a riot that will cost your city hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage."

Re: Washington Post again

(Anonymous) 2017-09-03 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Nayart

To be fair, there are a few plain old anarchists who show up to these things with the sole purpose of causing trouble. They show up any time there's a big rally of any kind and break windows, start fires, and commit other crimes. They don't discriminate between say, small locally owned businesses and corporations, or types of demonstrators. They will break the windows of a mom and pop neighborhood shop like they break the windows of a Starbucks, and they'll suckerpunch a cop like they suckerpunch someone on the opposing side. I've seen it happen. (And when they do get caught and arrested, they're usually bored kids from he suburbs.)